1894 Bicolor 4-O72 Violet Blue

ramme group 5 setting 43A 43B

please post images for my study ... thanks in advance
try to match the LAP month/day cancel type shown







see more on frame types > http://www.frimindeks.dk/tofarvet%204%20oere.htm

Bicolor, you ill have to do better than this. What are you talking about? Please give us the Scott / SG number and country of whatever it is you need. Unless you want us to guess?

Peter

Does this issue also have the inverted frame? Perhaps we need some examples of those?

You'll find a pretty thorough discussion of Danish Bi Colors in this excellent read.

https://goscf.com/t/52341

here is link to TOFDATA ...
http://phpbb.tofarvet.dk/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=221

51studebaker's last example seems to have some of the features that bicolor 1875 is looking for, but not listed. I went through my copies, and found nothing of interest (except one is inverted frame), but attached anyway. Good luck with your project.

the "project" Mack is referring to is plating or a setup of prints.

he's had help with the stamp on a different forum - the poor quality of the picture means I can't tell if that's correct.
the setting 43A 43B just means setting 43 - since the A and B stands for A and B sheet and therefor redundant to write - to most people this is incomprehendable unless you've worked with bi colored.

posting pictures for a study is too much to ask for - since you'll need many thousands of those to begin your work and online pictures are tricky since color change. And basicly gives me the impression that you're either too lazy or too tight on a budget to go buy some yourself.

a bundle of 4øre cost around $8 (100stamps) and sometimes accumulations are available cheaper. (but you'll need many to get somewhere)

also, Mack has started to plant a tree without digging a hole first.

4øre is the hardest (but cheapest) place to start learning.

12øre bundles are available as well - just add a zero to the price, and you can actually get somewhere with 100 stamps.

the last stamp studebaker posted is the ultramarine shade, prints 1 to 9 it has several frameflaws that could put it in a print and position for s and giggles.

i have no idea if it has any of the features that the OP asks for - since I can't comprehend what the point of most of the posts is for.

inverted frames are normal about 50/50 especially in the perforation Partime has displayed. (first stamp) second stamp is from print 75 the last print to have perforation 14 * 13 ½..

color and year of cancel as well as K III perforation

Although the topic is Danish stamps, Iceland's numeral definitives were printed at the same time by the same printer, and probably with the same ink supplier, albeit in much smaller quantities. Is here any evidence that they suffered from the same problems?

The plates show a lot of damage, but this can be attributed to normal wear and tear rather than anything else. Indeed some of the plate damage varieties span several printings.

island bicolors are very expensive, especially the first issue. the spiro forgeries also command a good price.

http://stampforgeries.com/iceland/

regarding a study group, I would query the islandic philatelic society.

very early fake here ...

The Islandic ovaltype was printed on HH Thiele's printing yes, as well was the service stamps and quite a few later issues. (also some of the coat of arms from finland were printed there).

there for it's likely to assume that the same mix was used - but I doubt it

delivery dates of 16øre and 16aur

16øre print 1 dec 17 - feb 06 1874
16øre print 2 apr 16 - sep 13 1875
16øre print 3 oct 02 - dec 04 1875
16aur print 1 apr 1876
16øre print 4 sep 22 1876
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16øre print 8 jun 15 1882
16aur print 2 aug 02 1883
16øre print 9 sep 20 1883

in each case the corresponding Icelandic value is printed some time after the previous Danish value (of same color)

with this in mind and the fact that there are huge differences in shades from print to print and even in the same print it's quite certain that new blends were made each time and it was difficult to hit the exact mixture.

Bicolor, that is a shocking fake! It wouldn't fool a blind donkey I have the Spiro forgeries of the first 'skilling' issue and they are quite good apart from the cancellations.

Sorsh, the printings are also distinguished by their paper thickness if you have a micrometer. The 10 and 16 Aur are particularly notable for their colour variation.

no I don't have one, I can feel it :)

but I do rely more on perforation, since ovals are made from 4 blocks of 25, you'll find the same "flaw" twice in 2 vertical rows, if you're experienced in how KII perforation looks like in the various era's it's quite simple to find which print... it just annoys me that I can't get closer than 2 positions.

the tryk 72 image is from AFA 2016 catalog ... my study covers years 1885-1894. plate 72 is last in series

row 10 offers inverted frames on both A B plates

U plates are of special interest ...