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Do You Think That This Movie Prop Cover Is Real?

 
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Posted 10/19/2017   9:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add James Drummond to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Personally, I have my doubts...



Jim

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And I sure can't argue with any of the flawless logical conclusions that are in the item description:

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Posted 10/19/2017   9:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Where is a letter of provenance from the studio (NBC?) attached to the piece attesting this was a PROP of any sort. I don't buy the story. I wonder if the guy also has a bridge for sale in Brooklyn??
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Edited by Hal - 10/19/2017 9:50 pm
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Posted 10/19/2017   10:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Even if it was, the price is still at least 5x too high. It's used out of period, so the cat value is meaningless. The only value it would have is as a prop assuming that the episode could be found to prove it.
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Posted 10/19/2017   10:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with rev collector!
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Posted 10/19/2017   10:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Remember kids, don't trip on LSD while you write up ebay lots.
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Posted 10/19/2017   10:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There's a pretty good chance that the stamp is faulty.

Nice looking but faulty stamp + unused old cover + knowing the guy at the postal station and asking for a hand-back cancel + "creativity" = a movie prop cover!

Jim
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Posted 10/20/2017   04:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike33 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'd buy it but only with free shipping - oh well
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Posted 10/20/2017   08:56 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Umm... if it really is a movie prop, chances are the stamp isn't even genuine. Most prop stamps/covers/coins/etc. of any import are manufactured.

Even in 1968 this stamp would have had considerable (relative) value, and it is unlikely a studio would have hunted down a genuine mint stamp to then turn into used to create a prop cover.
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Edited by revenuecollector - 10/20/2017 08:58 am
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Posted 10/20/2017   09:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I definitely vote no! Any Bonanza fans? Anyone ever seen this in an episode?? If it was actually a prop, it would've been shown on TV! But the fact that the seller thinks it's worth $24k makes it truly, well, just another wacky ebay listing...
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Posted 10/20/2017   12:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The prices on his other items are just as eye watering. $350 for this Herman Herst postcard Someone's having a laugh.





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Edited by Jenny2U - 10/20/2017 12:36 pm
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Posted 10/20/2017   5:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimwentzell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jenny2U

That's a nice postcard from Herman Herst....

I like covers from dealers and famous philatelic authors. When they're recognized as such they can sometimes fetch high prices, especially in bidding
wars. Often, they languish in dealer dollar boxes, or sell unrecognized in bulk lots.

Around 1977 I joined the Hollywood, Florida Stamp Club as an eighteen-year old fairly knowledgeable collector (so I thought.) Every Tuesday evening was a well-attended meeting and auction Many older collectors and even some retired Nassau Street dealers (Violet Montalto was one I recall well) would sell remnants and odd-lots of fairly interesting stuff.

One particular lot I ended up winning for $25. Before the Internet and ebay, stamp clubs were about the only game in town except for retail stores and stamp shows!)

No sooner had I won the banker's box-sized carton, than as I was carrying it back to my seat a rather feisty older fellow who I'd bid against sneered at me "so you're the young whipper-snapper who overbid on that box of junk!" The elderly gentleman was in a wheelchair but his hand was rummaging through the box as he spoke! "I'll give you two dollars for this cover." I eagerly took it as well as several other dollar bills shoved in my face from others who "just wanted one thing" from the hoard of mostly covers and cards.

I more than recouped the $25 I spent, selling half a dozen covers I had no interest in, so I was very pleased with myself. A little later someone told me "It must feel great to outbid Pat Herst, huh?!"

Even at a young age I'd heard of Herman (Pat) Herst, having read quite a few of his articles. I even had a book or two he authored. My ego soared when I considered he and I had similar tastes for certain stamp lots, and we were quite often fiercely competitive bidding on a wide range of generally eclectic material. We both shared a fondness for postal history with a story, especially poster stamps and other Cinderellas tied on cover.


--Jim Wentzell
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Edited by jimwentzell - 10/21/2017 08:23 am
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Jim, what a great story! Thanks for telling it. I look forward to seeing your philatelic covers - I've collected them for years.

This particular postcard by this seller caught my eye because of the price. As you mentioned, they can be picked up for a few dollars each. I think Herman Herst would be very proud that his outgoing mail would be valued this high
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Posted 10/21/2017   10:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have a signed Herst book, "Fun and Profit in Stamp Collecting". I think I got it for a quarter.
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