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Posted 10/27/2017   10:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Lincoln Stamp and Coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Any Thoughts?

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Posted 10/28/2017   12:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is a little bit odd that the strokes of the manuscript cancel are different for each stamp. No pattern that I can see. 2 vertical, 3 vertical, then 2 vertical...horizontally 2, 1, and 1.

Can't make out the notation. 2nd attempt at delivery on Nov. 6?
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Posted 10/28/2017   12:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The scribbling at the upper right is the postmark, which I interpret as Fillmore, Indiana or Missouri.
Osborn, MO is way too small to have had city delivery that early.
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Posted 10/28/2017   12:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wbrob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Helbock listed Fillmore Ind. as 1861 to date.
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Posted 10/28/2017   4:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Helbock listed Fillmore Ind. as 1861 to date.


According to its 1866 regulations, the Post Office Department furnished cancelers to all the larger post offices: Class I (annual revenue exceeding $1,000) received steel duplex devices, Class II (annual revenue between $500 and $1,000) received iron postmarks, and Class III (annual revenue between $100 and $500) received wooden postmarks. The postmasters at the small fourth class post offices were left to their own devices, so to speak, and had to purchase their date stamps and cancelers out of pocket.
On June 1 1869, there were 27, 106 post offices in U.S. About 95% of those were 4th class offices.

In Helbock's scarcity rating, this townmark will be a 0. Which implies that it is an easy townmark to find.
Yet this cover has a manuscript town cancel and the apparently bored postmaster pen canceled the strip of what looks like Scott 156 at least 12 years after the office opened.
That pen tells us Fillmore was a small, 4th class post office. Finding another could take years.
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Posted 10/28/2017   11:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lincoln Stamp and Coin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think it's a Town cancel
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Posted 10/28/2017   11:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is a town cancel - that's part of the canceling requirements - a town name, etc.
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Posted 10/29/2017   07:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lincoln Stamp and Coin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From Bottom Up: Date / Gnor (Governor) / Jn. M....
What struck me first are the stamp cancels, I don't think those are random markings. I'm guessing the stamp is #206?
There's a stamp show in Lexington today, I'll see if anyone there knows anything about it
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Edited by Lincoln Stamp and Coin - 10/29/2017 09:54 am
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Posted 10/29/2017   5:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lincoln Stamp and Coin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's another cover using Ciphers as cancels:
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Edited by Lincoln Stamp and Coin - 10/29/2017 5:36 pm
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Posted 10/29/2017   6:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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What struck me first are the stamp cancels, I don't think those are random markings


Indeed the marks are not random, nor are they any secret code. They are following the regulations. Excerpted from the regulations section of the 1866 Postal Laws and Regulations volume:



And skipping forward a few pages:



And closer in date to the original cover in this thread, the canceling and postmarking regulations are quite similar in the 1879 PL&R volume:




Thus the original cover in this thread is a very normal example of canceling and postmarking in this era in a small office without a cancel device. The story is "following the regulations in small-town America".
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Edited by John Becker - 10/29/2017 6:30 pm
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Posted 10/29/2017   7:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lincoln Stamp and Coin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, that's The Letter of the Law
and we know that they used Letters, Numbers, anything at all
Here is about as Small Town as you can get, and it's a Number! Does anyone know why "64" was used?
As for following TLOTL: there are ways to do things, and ways to do things (wink)

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Edited by Lincoln Stamp and Coin - 10/29/2017 7:42 pm
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Posted 10/29/2017   7:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lincoln Stamp and Coin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Thus the original cover in this thread is a very normal example of canceling and postmarking in this era in a small office without a cancel device. The story is "following the regulations in small-town America"."

I would agree with this assessment, but I cannot get an "I" out of what is a "G"
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Posted 10/29/2017   8:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like the "I" and the "n" are two different pen strokes...being so close together that they have the appearance of a script capital "G".
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Posted 10/29/2017   9:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If that is a 64, than likely it represents the year date.
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Posted 10/29/2017   9:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Take a look at Find-A-Grave and you will find a Benjamine M. "Ben" Nicholson (1854-1886) in Fillmore Cemetery in Fillmore, Putnam County, Indiana.
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Posted 10/29/2017   9:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lincoln Stamp and Coin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
well, there ya go! Thank You!
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