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Posted 11/12/2017   7:23 pm  Show Profile Check Stamps1962's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Stamps1962 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Is anyone using this system for their GB collection and if so, how do you like it? I have a somewhat specialized collection of the Victorian era with plate #s on most issues according to the Windsor album I am using. I have become a bit disenchanted with Gibbons' line, I include covers and varieties in my collection and they do not make stock sheets to match their albums.

I'd like to hear from others as to how you provide for the plate #s on the Victorian issues, do you print off your own pages, use the 'LB'sheets or what? I think they do provide for the Penny Red #s, but not on any other issues.
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Posted 11/12/2017   8:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ldhaber to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I collect GB and for all the Q.V. issues I collect these by plate number and produce my own Lighthouse pages from the blank LB pages. I figured out the fonts to use and follow their style. Once I hit KEVII I use the preprinted Lighthouse pages all the way to QEII, aside from Machins wherein again I print out my own pages. I works out well for me and I'm happy with a consistent style.
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Posted 11/14/2017   08:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ldhaber to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Btw, I forgot to ask, but would you like a pdf of the pages I've done?
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Posted 11/14/2017   1:22 pm  Show Profile Check Stamps1962's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Stamps1962 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ldhaber, yes!

Have never done this before, but if you have access to my email address from my membership information go ahead. If not message me and I will supply it.

I could consider using those for the Victoria section, then start with Lighthouse pages from 1901 or so.
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Posted 11/14/2017   5:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ldhaber to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 11/14/2017   7:14 pm  Show Profile Check Stamps1962's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Stamps1962 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like your message went to my default email address and that was closed a long time ago. I sent you an email with the current one, also updated on my profile so maybe you cn just do that. Sorry.
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Posted 11/15/2017   10:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mikyh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I bought the Lighthouse GB album in 1980 followed by the yearly supplements until my cutoff date of end 1999. Now all housed in 3 albums. Still as new so can thoroughly recommend them.

Apart for the completely blank pages you can also buy the blank pages with the Great Britain imprint and border. You then only need print the stamp details. I used these for all my se-tenant machin booklet panes.

The Victorian section is specialised and contains all the plate numbers and shades. Far too detailed for me so I reprinted the first 13 pages as 3 pages.

Mike
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Posted 11/16/2017   11:11 am  Show Profile Check Stamps1962's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Stamps1962 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mike, are you saying that the QV section has all the plate numbers? Yeah I know you wrote that but wanted to be sure. Years ago before settling in to the Windsor album I had a set of the Lighthouse early GB pages. They had spaces for #s on the Penny Reds, nothing else. That album has been updated, as all their line has. That would cinch it for me!

Since posting the above I've been trolling the net for anything that may shed light on the scope of coverage for these pages, cannot find much. What I do find seems to indicate they still provide just for the #s on the Penny Reds, not on any other. There are 25 pages in the first section, I think there'd be more if they provided for all the numbers.

Input appreciated.
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Posted 11/16/2017   4:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mikyh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Away from home at moment. However pages 3a to 3e contain spaces for all plated penny blacks, penny reds, twopenny blues and one halfpenny stamps. Not sure if these pages are a supplement or part of the standard issue. Can check the other Victorian plated stamps when I return home on Sunday.

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Posted 11/16/2017   7:39 pm  Show Profile Check Stamps1962's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Stamps1962 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wouldn't you think album pubishers would attempt to show prospective buyers what they are getting? Lighthouse does not show any of their pages on any of their sites. You have to search for someone selling a collection on them on ebay in order to get an idea of coverage.

Here is a link I found to a seller in the UK offering a used album that covers the QV era:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lighthou...AOSwyXNaBwxS

Only the first page scanned but its suggestive. Shades and varieties on the early Line Engraved issues.

Now if I can just see how they treat the 1850-80 issues where the majority of the plate numbers occur. Thanks Mike for your kind offer, anyone else have a newer edition of this album and can share this"?
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Posted 11/17/2017   2:56 pm  Show Profile Check Stamps1962's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Stamps1962 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK, I think I have my answer, maybe. This is a link to a recent UK auction of an extensive GB collection with scans of pages from a Lighthouse album:

https://auction.catawiki.com/kavels...tturm-albums

There may be a more recent printing of this section than the one in this lot, but as of now it appears provision is made for shades on all QV issues, also plates on the Penny Reds, Halfpennys, and possible the Penny Blacks and Twopence Blues. Other than that, plate numbers are not provided for. The 1840-1901 section has just 25 pages so they cannot be including plates on the Surface printings, etc.

Not a deal breaker for me. I have a supply of blank Lighthouse pages and have 'AlbumGen' page software so could create pages for plate numbers not provided for. At most i'd need to create 15-20 pages I guess. That's doable.

Album publishers sure keep you in the dark for what you are getting.
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Posted 11/30/2017   02:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DrewM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have to agree. It does seem odd that the very thing album makers are selling -- the layouts on their pages -- is the thing least shown in their printed catalogues and on their websites. I understand why they wouldn't want to show many pages -- since an unscrupulous person might try to copy them and print them out -- but you'd think a few key pages would be part of any listing of what's for sale. Or they could list more pages but include a "watermark" over them to make copying much more difficult. How else is an album buyer going to know if that particular page layout is appealing to them? Lighthouse page layouts are very different from Davo which are different from Scott and so forth. And different album publishers have different habits, requiring se-tenant stamps both joined and separated, for example in one publisher's album, but not in another's. Let's see them, then. You almost have to order the albums, look them over, and then return them if not acceptable. It's almost as though they still think we go to stamp stores where we can look at different albums and compare them. Hardly anyone does that anymore. I know I don't.
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Posted 11/30/2017   11:02 am  Show Profile Check Stamps1962's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Stamps1962 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gibbons is especially bad in that regard. Their site and printed catalog only show tantalizing glimpse of the pages and put most of the effort into showing you the binder. It is really dysfunctional. I've communicated with them, received the usual thanks for the suggestion and they just keep doing it.

I placed an order with Nordfrim for a few sections of the Lighthouse GB album to 1970, hopefully it will be here by the Holidays- on back order now- so I will post back on here what I got.
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Posted 12/03/2017   5:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gorseinonboy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've recently rekindled my love of collecting stamps through purchasing a variety of items on ebay. This growing 'collection' is Located in various stock books, old and decripid albums, loose pages, presentation packs and binders. Now comes the interesting but very perplexing bit. I'm realising that I need a proper album system to show off what I've collected so far. But the choice is endless and confusing, the suppliers intent on releasing the very least information on which to make a judgement. So I agree with those who have posted above.....making an informed judgement is nigh on impossible. And given the somewhat expensive nature of having to buy several albums and the appropriate pages one doesn't want to make a terrible mistake in the choice!

What I'd like but I'm not sure if it exists is a quality album with the flexibility of a spring or other system ie being able to take pages in/out easily. I'd like to have printed and mounted pages but realise that this would be very expensive. So is there an easy way round this expense?

What do others do when they reach this stage in their collecting project? I've read That some stick to their stock books and don't bother with albums. Is that a good way out of the dilemma?
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Posted 12/03/2017   6:13 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Why not just buy springback albums and blank quadrille pages? You can then arrange things as you like. There are lots of springback albums around. I like these

https://www.worldstamps.co.uk/salis...stamp-albums

which are pretty robust.
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Posted 12/15/2017   10:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DrewM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think using blank/quadrille pages is a great idea, but it does require some extra effort. After all, in a printed album with spaces, it's easy-as-pie to just attach each stamp in the space where it belongs without a problem. With blank pages, you have to decide your layout for each page ahead of time, and you may need to draw boxes, and you will certainly have to label each stamp or stamp set as to what it's about, when it was issued, and so on. I'd guess it would take twice the time to work with blank albums, maybe more than that, compared to pre-printed albums.

But, of course, that's part of the pleasure of blank albums -- you get to spend your time creating an appealing presentation of stamps that reflects your own decisions about the best layout, and so on. And you end up with a creative product that is very much more personalized than a manufactured album that anyone could buy and fill with stamps. I like looking at someone's blank album far more than a preprinted album filled with stamps. The latter looks standard just as you'd expect. The blank album is a personalized creation that is often much more appealing.

Blank albums seem to be much more widely used in Europe, it seems to me anyway, than in the U.S. where we seem to prefer printed albums. Maybe Europeans appreciate an aesthetic product like an album that you created yourself more than we do? Hard to say.

It's also much less expensive to create your own blank albums, well under half the price of printed albums. A Scott album for a major stamp issuing country would likely cost $3-400 for a few hundred pages and maybe three binders to hold them, perhaps more. The same country in a Lighthouse, Davo, or Schaubek album will require up to five or six volumes of pages and cost up to $1000, again perhaps more. Five volumes of blank pages in binders of your own choosing might cost half of the cost of a Scott album -- likely less if you use less expensive (meaning less fancy) pages and binders. Using elegant Schaubek blank pages put into Schaubek 6-ring binders would run you about $70 a volume. Times five volumes and you have a $350 album which has enough space for an entire collection of a major country. You just have to create it album yourself.

I've seen blank albums created by collectors which had stamps mounted on each page with no attempt to draw boxes or even to label the stamps or sets of stamps. Just stamps mounted on pages. That's a bit bleak for my taste. At the other end of the spectrum, more creative collectors highlight sets of stamps with marginal lines and label them in great detail, creating what are almost works of art. And of course there's in-between which is where most album makers choose.

If I had to choose a pre-printed album on a budget, instead of a blank album, I'd choose Scott albums. They're very well designed and well made. If I had unlimited funds, I might choose Lighthouse albums or one of the other European manufacturers. Some collectors try to mount their collections in an albumsmade in the country they're collecting, maybe Marini for Italy, SG for Britain, Lighhouse or Schaubek for Germany, Yvert & Tellier for France, and so on. I'd find that difficult to do and expensive. And supplementing those albums might prove difficult.

And, of course, there's the option of using pages already laid out for you which you print yourself on your home printer. Those are the Steiner pages used a lot today. They'll be the size of computer paper, of course, which you may find a bit small compared to other albums. But the layouts are well done -- and you cannot beat the amazingly low price. Those pages plus some three ring (or other) binders, and you've got an album that looks pretty good.

As for the other question about how to know what a manufacturer's album page layouts actually look like, you can buy and return if you don't like the album. But that's time-consuming. You used to be able to compare albums in stamp stores. Not much chance of that today. I've seen album manufacturers displaying samples of their albums at some of the major national stamp shows. I've purchased some used albums on ebay at times. It's also possible sometimes to get a publisher to send you a sample page to look at. I've even bought a few used pages online just to be sure I like the way that album is designed. It's all a bit laborious for me just to decide what a properly illustrated website or paper catalogue could tell me a lot easier.

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