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Hanukkah Stamps Issued Today (November 14th) And Immediately Recalled

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Posted 11/23/2017   9:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for posting those - but a BIGGER THANKS, you cover arrived today in perfect condition, with a November 18 date - proof the stamp came from the original booklet. MERCI!
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Edited by BeeSee - 11/23/2017 9:25 pm
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Posted 11/24/2017   10:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the front side picture


see new bar code numbers as mentioned in earlier Post
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Edited by Gilles le timbre - 11/24/2017 8:06 pm
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Posted 11/24/2017   1:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Edited by jogil - 11/24/2017 1:21 pm
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Posted 11/24/2017   2:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Found a FDC on ebay -
Like the booklets, they were also recalled

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Edited by Renden - 11/24/2017 2:11 pm
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Posted 11/24/2017   3:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks jogil
No member posted one and I know the red scriptures are not from Poste Canada
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Posted 11/24/2017   3:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Milco to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
...in the end, we know what is the reason of recall?
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Posted 11/24/2017   5:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From the article in CSN, I better keep my copy of "Details", which was also recalled.....
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Posted 11/24/2017   5:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add zmlbill to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
here is one


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Posted 11/24/2017   6:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ogopogo278 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,
My first post. I created the Ogopogo FDC of the Hanukkah stamp shown above. And yes it is a Private not an OFDC created from stamps from the Original booklet.
Agree with earlier comment, Canada Post will reprint the OFDC and MAY use the Nov 14th date. If this happens collectors will have a tough time deciding if the cover is from the first booklet or the reprint. Be careful spending $500.
Having both booklets in front of me I would say the reprint has a very slightly darker light blue background on the top part of the stamp. But the difference is minute and depending on light condition one can't tell.
And speaking of "fake" cancellation dates. As far as I'm concerned the dates on the KIOSK FDC are fudged. on Oct 31, there would have been an 18 digit not a 14 digit serial # on the stamp. Besides, the FDC's became available in the Christmas week of 2016 - a long time after the "official date".
Pete

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Posted 11/24/2017   6:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The creator of his private FDC has given me a refund so this terminates my portion of comments re: the subject - Rene
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Posted 11/24/2017   6:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add zmlbill to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
my question: if there is no difference between old and new stamps why they recalled FDC? lol and why do they need so much time to reprint FDC?

weird!
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Posted 11/25/2017   12:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BlackJag to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The creator of Renden's cover has the recall date wrong - it was the date of issue - November 14th, not the 15th.

I was refused Canada Post's sale of the issue on the 14th by the Post Master due to her having opened the recall email from Canada Post HQ before I arrived. Luckily, I was able to purchase 20 booklets from another source that had not read the email.

I agree with ogopogo278 that the reprinted stamp has a darker blue than the original. The two stamps can be differentiated by the blue colour in candles 3 and 6 and the 5th from the top traffic light. As Canada Post did not change the official date of issue, the use of November 14, 2017 on the OFDC is correct. However, which stamp was used, original or reprint, can be determined by the blue colour. At this time, I have not received my OFDC from Canada Post and my local Post Office did not receive any fro sale.

The following is a comparison between the original November 14th. stamp and the reprinted November 20th. booklet stamp.

The second of the three blue ink 'traffic lights' (the fifth traffic light from the top) is darker in the reprinted version than in the original stamp. As a result, the word 'HANOUKKA' and the third and sixth candles are darker in the reprinted version than in the original stamp.



As to the reason for the recall - Please forgive my lack of knowledge concerning the Jewish religion, but I wonder if the use of the Star of David in the original printing on the cover and in the traffic lights (ink colour dots) was offensive in some manner. For example, I've never seen a crucifix used as traffic lights on our 'Christian-based' Christmas stamps.

I do not want offend anyone for my second possible reason for the recall and apologize if this happens. Seeing the Star of David as a single item on the original cover, I was sadly reminded of the Nazi's requirement that all Jewish citizens wear a large yellow Star of David on their clothing to denote their religion.

In the single reprinted booklet that I purchased, there is a black ink spill on the position 1 stamp.
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Edited by BlackJag - 11/25/2017 12:20 am
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Posted 11/25/2017   04:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Black Jag: It may have something to do with this regarding the different colours http://img.myconfinedspace.com/wp-c...Markings.jpg
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Posted 11/25/2017   12:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BlackJag to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
jogil - it is possible. I hope that someone who knows exactly tells us.
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Posted 11/25/2017   3:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Karyudo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The new OFDC design (when it's released) should give some corroborating evidence: if the lone yellow-and-red Star of David on the back of the envelope is gone, then that will be an increasingly strong indicator the prevailing theory is probably correct.
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