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Posted 12/09/2017   10:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting thread. Every few months, someone submits a "one of a kind" color variety, or "plate flaw" and SCF members attempt to explain to the poster what he or she has. The poster only sees or believes what they want to believe.

The names of people trying to help may change, but the result is almost always the same.
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Posted 12/09/2017   10:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MrQuestion to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
After seeing the damage I'm so upset, because I do remember some A25 3 cent Washingtons in same area that I remembered maybe some pigeon bloods and browns. Now how can I even list or show them because of this destruction of what has happened? They most likely have been damaged by whatever was in the box as well. I feel like I have let him down by not getting to them sooner to remove them from the on slot of what was to come I believe. It is a shame I was called out during our talks now I have found many Im just guessing trash even the pink/blue King Edward VII Tyrian Plum from 1910 which now has some blue involved I'm just sick I tell ya.Does it even hold valve now who knows.
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Posted 12/10/2017   01:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What is your experience with Pigeon Blood Pinks other than "maybe"? These are quite rare with most collectors never having seen a real one in person, certified genuine. And the color is still confused with other pinks. And what are the "browns" mentioned?

Can we see these including the Tyrian plum regardless of current condition?
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Posted 12/10/2017   01:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think the OP is just tossing out things now to get a reaction. Maybe their Twitter account is down? I would just ignore until we get some scanned examples.
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Posted 12/10/2017   07:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add YeaPolska to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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someone mentioned box ghosts


Ah! Should have mentioned this at the start. We've been looking at this the wrong way folks - this is what's happened -

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Posted 12/10/2017   12:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MrQuestion to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These were in the same area and envelope hoping I get a they look fine and normal from everyone. Will upload many more later today I look forward to everyone's replies you all are known as the brightest group experts out there I value your opinions greatly.


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Posted 12/10/2017   12:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MrQuestion to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
YeaPolska, that is a very interesting stamp on the Ghost Busters and what is so weirdly interesting the stamp like mine is the exact same area of the stamp on mine which has the damage so weird. Maybe the printing method is flawed somehow. Great example.
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Posted 12/10/2017   2:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They all look fine & normal. All look like 65s. No pinks or pigeon bloods. You need to turn them all upside down & scan again, so we can see if there are any grills...
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Posted 12/10/2017   3:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MrQuestion to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Their was only one I saw I'm sure this is a grill what one I have no clue.


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Posted 12/11/2017   01:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That is a grill. Prob an E grill, which would make that stamp Sc#88...
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Posted 12/12/2017   01:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sorsh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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After much digging inside in the area of where those were located. Many and I mean many were completely faded or just a maze of colors,,what could cause this? I am so disappointed. I know he valued his collection dearly someone mentioned box ghosts could this have been an acidic box they were in?



back in the days some albums had plastic softener in them, which caused stamps placed in them for long periods, or the right temperature/humidity, to OXIDIZE, changing some of the colors.

the EXCELLENT experiment by poster: John Becker shows one way of chemical change.
there are numerous ways for colors to change, and what Becker did is exactly what an experienced forger would do to achieve his result.

i'm not saying the person you inherited this collection from is a forger, just that chemicals is the cause.

Danish Bicoloured stamps have been subject to these attempt at forging too for many years as some shades(prints) are quite valuable compared to others... especially the earliest ones.. later prints, depending on the chemicals used on the consistency in the color mixture used to make the stamp, could be altered to look like earlier prints.

and to the original poster: MrQuestion

many of the people on this forum are quite capable of making certificates themselves, they posses the knowledge and expertize.
and you don't acknowledge this at any point.

you ask question (fitting name) upon question, and people share their oppinions, but you never show appreciation or follow up with a simple thank you.
you just talk over, around or move to place a new question.

result is starting to show as people start to ignore.

perhaps you should think a little about this as it will greatly increase the assistance you'll get, here and where ever you go in your life.
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Posted 12/12/2017   08:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MrQuestion to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well sure I'm Mr Questions, I inherited my collection,I have not so much ever looked at stamps in my life. And after much digging I'm beginning to see, the scope of this it will take me 10 years plus to absorb the knowledge you all have. And my post above acknowledge you gents that you all have the best reputation out there, so how do you get I don't acknowledge this? I'm surly going to try and learn on my own but need assistance also. I came to this site because you all are the best. But I'm in no way going to praise you like you god's. I have made acknowledgment of your skills how have I not acknowledged the experts please tell me I want to know. And I don't live on this site 24/7 when I'm on I try answering all back. Sure I'm new but definitely won't be chastised for it. Pigeon blood and such by the way was written on loose notes near the stamps in folder leaving me to think Mendel's stamps were of this nature is all. Is each post I make now going to be ignored as you stated? This is very offending.
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