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Victoria 1862/5: 2/- Blue On Greenish Paper Without Wmk?

 
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Posted 12/10/2017   12:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jimjamtwo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Does anyone have a reference in their catalogue to this stamp without a watermark? I believe it's supposed to be V2.

Thanks for looking!

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Posted 12/10/2017   01:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is a Stanley Gibbons note about these regarding the single-line watermark papers. It says that these are from the left or right side of badly cut sheets, along with stamps showing partial watermarks. Also reversed and inverted watermarks are not uncommon with these issues.
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Posted 12/10/2017   01:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjamtwo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, hy-brasil. There could be a small portion of a watermark in one of the corners.
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Posted 12/10/2017   03:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Personally, I would log this in my database with a red flag.
There's something going on here.
Not based on any evidence I have, or knowledge, just a gut feeling.

I suspect that is a forgery.

I have an 1863 4d rose in the same category...it just doesn't look right.

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Edited by rod222 - 12/10/2017 03:05 am
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Posted 12/10/2017   08:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StevieG to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Geoff Kellow's book on the stamps of Victoria describes this stamp in some detail. The plate consisted of two printing surfaces which is described as a hybrid woodblock/electrolyte plate. Of note is a reference to the outer margins of the electrotype block. It often shows frameline damage and coloured spots in the margins representing nails attaching the copper shell to its base. Your two shilling stamp appears to show one of these spots in the top left margin.
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Posted 12/10/2017   2:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
representing nails attaching the copper shell to its base.


Fascinating. Thank you.
Have to search for that book.


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Edited by rod222 - 12/10/2017 2:31 pm
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Posted 12/11/2017   9:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
20 printings of the value over 15+ years!:
http://www.stampsofvictoria.com/wood.php
Note the scan there is apparently from a much earlier printing. The lettering shapes and locations matches up with jimjamtwo's example, I think.
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Posted 12/12/2017   7:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjamtwo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
StevieG thanks for the information. I was wondering what the break in the left frame was all about.

rod222, many Victorian stamps don't 'look right.' It goes with the territory!
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Edited by jimjamtwo - 12/12/2017 7:08 pm
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