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Counterfeit Stamps In My Collection

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Posted 12/15/2017   10:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add oneputt89 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I acquired 10 stamps in a trade that purport to be Scott 357-366. They have the bluish gray background. I was excited at the find. I had two experts evaluate the issue. They agreed that the issue was counterfeit. Does anyone know how I might further confirm their evaluation? Secondarily, I was told that there are collectors that specialize in counterfeits. Does anyone know if this is true?
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Posted 12/15/2017   10:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chris2015 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I had two experts evaluate the issue. They agreed that the issue was counterfeit.


What more do you need?
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Posted 12/15/2017   10:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You could send them off to the Philatelic Foundation if you are not satisfied with the experts opinions. It will cost you.
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Posted 12/15/2017   10:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oneputt89 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are there counterfeit collectors?
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Posted 12/15/2017   10:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They are not forgeries, they were misidentified or misrepresented. No?
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Posted 12/15/2017   10:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oneputt89 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They are forgeries. Blue paper and all.
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Posted 12/15/2017   12:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add svensson to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are quite a few experts on here, please post scans or photos.
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Posted 12/15/2017   4:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oneputt89 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK. I will.
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Posted 12/15/2017   7:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oneputt89 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have uploaded a picture of the stamps in question.
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Posted 12/15/2017   8:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Where is the photo?
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Posted 12/16/2017   8:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
All collectors end up with fakes and forgeries while collecting. Yes, there are collectors of counterfeits. Some are valuable. Some are crude.
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Posted 12/16/2017   8:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chris2015 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I have uploaded a picture of the stamps in question.


Yes, where's the picture??
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Posted 12/17/2017   3:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oneputt89 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Click on my user name and then click on uploaded photos.
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Posted 12/17/2017   3:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oneputt89 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Pic is posted.
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Posted 12/18/2017   4:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Reedededge to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am not an advocate of buying every valuable stamp with a reliable cert, but when it comes to something like bluish paper issues, I would say a cert is imperative. There are many misidentified rare stamp varieties, some intentionally and others because of lack of knowledge. But, perhaps no single U.S.issue is misidentified more often than these experimental paper stamps. Remember, these stamps (with the exception of 1 & 2 cent issues) are RARE. Consequently, finding them is tough. The chance of just "happerstancing" onto a complete set is slim. I see non-certed bluish papers on ebay all of the time, generally trading at a fraction of their catalog value. Almost without exception, they are NEVER bluish paper. We all like a bargain, but we need to be realistic with our expectations, as well. If a deal looks to good to be true, it usually is. My rule is when buying a stamp that derives ALL of its value from proper attribution, I would never buy it from an unknown source without a reliable certificate. The Washington-Franklins are full of rare issues, and this series is a perfect example of what I'm referring to.
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