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Cook Islands 1938: 3/- Pictorial - Double Impression?

 
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Posted 12/24/2017   10:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jimjamtwo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Is this a double impression of the blue vignette? Or something else? Stamp is Scott 114. Second image shows the vignette from the normal stamp, third image the vignette from my variety.



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Posted 12/24/2017   10:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjamtwo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And, of course, Merry Christmas everybody!
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Posted 12/24/2017   10:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In my opinion, not a double impression, but probably a kiss-print, or slightly wet ink to give a blurred impression.

And Merry Christmas to you as well. Happy and Safe New Years.
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Posted 12/24/2017   10:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjamtwo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Partime!

I've never been sure what a kiss print actually is.

I think the result is more beautiful that the regular stamp. It makes the scene look as if it were a misty morning.

Have a great day.
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Posted 12/25/2017   12:24 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Based on my experiences on a certain stamp forum located down under, it appears that non-U.S. collectors of British Empire material routinely classify kiss prints as "double impressions" no matter how minute.

Different geographic standards, I guess.
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Posted 12/25/2017   01:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjamtwo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How would you define a kiss print, revenuecollector?

I've also noticed that American collectors do not seem to use the term "re-entry."
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Posted 12/25/2017   02:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is nice. I have seen similar on some of the Zanzibar "dhow" high values, which have frames apparently doubled. As has been pointed out, it's not strictly a double print but where the plate has bounced a little on the paper during printing.

They are never listed in the catalogues but have a 50-75% premium over CV if they come up for sale.

Happy Christmas to you.
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Posted 12/25/2017   03:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjamtwo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Tim H. All the best from Sydney, Australia.

So is what you referring to (plate bounce) a kiss print?
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Yes, thus is my understanding of a "kiss print". It's not a true double impression. Most people seem a bit vague about a definition but "bouncing" usually comes into the description.

The way I see it is that the paper is not 100% flat when the block makes contact, so there is an initial impression followed almost immediately by the "true" impression. The two are, therefore, slightly out of alignment giving a slight doubling or ghosting of the image. It's certainly unusual for recess-printed stamps, but more common on overprints/surcharges.

If anyone has a printing background, maybe they can help? I think one of our Canadian members is pretty hot on printing technology.
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The way I see it is that the paper is not 100% flat when the block makes contact, so there is an initial impression followed almost immediately by the "true" impression. The two are, therefore, slightly out of alignment giving a slight doubling or ghosting of the image. It's certainly unusual for recess-printed stamps, but more common on overprints/surcharges.


The following paragraph is taken from James H. Baxter's Printing Postage Stamps by Line Engraving Part Three Chapter III, page 118;



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Posted 12/26/2017   12:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Partime posted a really nice link on the Stamp Production section of this forum which helps with a lot of answers to this thread:

http://www.re-entries.com/terms.html
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