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This stamp has the T.E.O. that one finds on stamps of Cilicia but this stamp does not have the word "Cilicia" overprinted on it. Is it a Cilicia error or something else? 
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I didn't see a match in Scott, so I checked Yvert. It sure looks like it would be Cilicia Yv58, but as you say, it is missing the " cilicie". Your T.E.O. isn't so low that the rest of the overprint would fall off the bottom of the stamp.  |
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It is Cilicia Scott #88, it does not have the Cilicia. I will check my Max Mayo book to see if he mentions such an error.
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I think Cilicie was simply ommited. Scarce variety ! TEO & Cilicie were overprinted seperately.. Differences in the Block below,they line up differently in all 4 stamps.  |
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It is a overprint on a newspaper stamp ,Scott 88, missing the Cilicia overprint .There are a lot of different varieties in these overprints . |
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Perf 12 ----That scan has a different color or is that the scanner ? Where did you get the picture . |
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I took the picture and it is a accurate color rendition. Is this listed anywhere as an error? |
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Checked Mayo. I don't see a "missing" Cilicia variety, however, he does discuss that these presses were pretty unreliable and there are lots of varieties. One variation,(type m), Mayo designates as a reversal, where Cilicia is above the T.E.O. This might be one such variety. where it was printed in the stamp above.
Mayo does talk about the frustration of the printers in that "Throughout the run, this Cilicie appears to fall apart, reassemble, re-inforce, wiggle, drop some letters, and finally, probably in exasperation, the pressman took a mallet to the type, scratching the first four letters." Michael |
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Dave -- I was asking PERF 12 the question because his is a tan/ brown colored stamp not like yours or my two . |
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OK, I found the variety
In Max Mayo's book he lists a series of varieties for these stamps, included a Cilicia omitted. so
5pa on 2pa olive green (13V2mm, 10 x 2) (12)* b. double overprint be. double Cilicie bt. double T.E.O· bv. double overprint, one inverted nc. Cilicie omitted nep. vertical pair; 136 + 136nc nt. T.E.O.omitted ntp. vertical pair; 136 + 136nt ob. double blue "5" overprint obb. treble blue "5" overprint rb. double red tughra overprint v. inverted overprint
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Nice work digging up the Mayo listing.  The description of the printers' efforts is priceless. For anyone who checks later, Yv 58 and Sc 88 are the same stamp. Neither of their Classic catalogues lists the omitted cilicie. |
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