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США # 581/596 (Perforation 10x10)

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Posted 02/19/2018   08:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add valera_foto to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I would like to hear a professional opinion about the brand # 581
19.25x22.5. The biggest indicator that the stamp was 632 is the color The 596 was a sheet of waste from a rotary press (perforation 10x10) Scott 581 and was printed in green as opposed to a yellow green 632

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Posted 02/19/2018   09:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
the 596 has perf 11 all around, your stamp looks like perf 10?
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Posted 02/19/2018   11:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add aug-stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The link below takes you to Siegel's auction offering Scott#594 and #596. The imgaes are of very good quality and you can compare your stamp with the certified #596:
https://siegelauctions.com/lots.php...B&page_no=25
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Posted 02/20/2018   04:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 02/21/2018   01:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add valera_foto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Size 19.15-20 X22, 60 ???
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Posted 02/21/2018   11:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your stamp is perf 10x10, the only possibility is Scott 581. Done.

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Posted 02/22/2018   01:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add valera_foto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all, for participating in the discussion of my theme.
I really liked the quality of the brand,
Made the scan size(150#1089;#1084;#1093;130#1089;#1084;)
To draw attention to the very fine lines, and clarity.
Probably not every brand has such high quality....
I can say that because I compared it to some brands.
That You can say on this issue..
And wanted to clarify, where can be watch Scott#581 ,
What would compare?




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Posted 02/23/2018   12:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add valera_foto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Russ the information on the forum.....
The 632 is 19.25x22.5. The biggest indicator that the stamp was a 632 is the color. The 596 was sheet waste from the rotary press (perf 10x10) Scott 581 and was printed in green as opposed to the yellow green of the 632. The 594 would measure 19.75x22.25 and was coil waste from the rotary press (perf 10 vert) Scott 597 coil.
The 581/596 were printed on the Bureau of Engraving and Printing's new large Stickney rotary presses. These machines did the printing gumming and perforation in a continuous operation. Evidently a small amount of printed and gummed web was removed in the early set-up and run of this stamp. Rather than destroying it, it was cut into sheets and perforated on the perf 11 flat plate perforators. The total quanity produced is unknown but was probably just a few thousand.
Does this have anything to do with my brand Scott # 581?


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Posted 02/23/2018   02:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
what you write is about scott numbers 632, 596, 594 and 581. your stamp is 581. that is all of what it has to do with it.
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Posted 02/23/2018   02:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add valera_foto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott 581-is it made by rotary press sheet waste (perf 10x10)?
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Posted 02/23/2018   03:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add aug-stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Valera_foto, don't be sad: we have all went through the disappointment of our stamps NOT BEING the very rare Scott-something
It seems to be a beginners syndrome
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Posted 02/23/2018   04:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add valera_foto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for supporting me.…
My guess is Scott 581 that it was printed from rotary press sheet waste because it has a very high-quality print.
If you compare with the brand Scott 596, many of the elements are very exactly the same.
On this I believe that the brand was made of sheet waste rotary press,
But perforation was made (10x10).or do you think it's a flat plate Scott581 ?
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Posted 02/23/2018   04:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add erilaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Scott 581-is it made by rotary press sheet waste (perf 10x10)?

Scott #581 wasn't made from rotary press sheet waste, because #581 was printed (and intended to be printed) on the rotary press. There's no such thing as a flat plate #581.


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The 596 was a sheet of waste from a rotary press (perforation 10x10)

No. #596 is perf. 11, which is what distinguishes it from #581. In other words, some stamps printed on the rotary press, which were supposed to be put through a perf. 10 perforator to produce Scott #581, were mistakenly put through a perf. 11 perforator, which produced the error that has Scott #596.


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The biggest indicator that the stamp was 632 is the color

No, the biggest indicator that a stamp would be #632 would be that it's perforated 11×10½. #632 ranges from green to yellow green, and the variant #632a from bright to deep green. If it's 11×10½, it's #632 or #632a — unless it has a Kans. or Nebr. overprint.
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Posted 02/23/2018   07:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add valera_foto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the comment
But why are there such fine lines in this brand…
That happens...?
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Posted 02/23/2018   07:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add aug-stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some dies were manufactured better than others. Some workers were more careful than others. Some paper and some ink were better than others ...
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Posted 02/23/2018   07:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
yes, the lines on those rotary stamps are sometimes really nice. I have better examples, but this one I just had here:

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