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Posted 03/04/2018   7:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add 51studebaker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
A fellow contacted me with a few album questions, perhaps some folks here might be able to help him. Here is his message


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I got back into serious stamp collecting less than a year ago. I had collected when I was a kid and had a nice collection in an 1840-1940 Scott album with a hard binding and light blue cover. I swear it was NOT A JUNIOR album though get the impression that it was uncommon as I could find no mention of it. I sold that collection during a messy divorce in the late 70's. I take it that it was a pretty good collection 'cause back then a dealer paid me $500 for it.

I've a couple of questions and can't seem to find how to ask them in your forums (but I'm lousy at computers) so maybe you can answer them and/or maybe direct me on how to do it. Anyway I would love to know if anyone recognizes the existence of that old Scott hardbound ADULT album with the light blue cover. I still remember it clearly. Also, I've managed to acquire, by careful bidding (I'm 80 and don't have a lot of spare cash) a series of Scott Brown albums: the 1899, the 1900-1920, the 1920-29, and the 1928-1932 volumes. What I'd like to know about the Browns is: what was the earliest date of the 19th century version. (are there any of them available?, not reprints!) and what were the latest complete editions of the Brown's (I've heard that there were 1932-36 and or '38 edition/s.and are they available. I haven't seen any on e-bay auctions.)


He has joined here and is still learning the community. Can anyone help him?
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Posted 03/04/2018   8:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Perhaps the gentleman could type in "Scott Stamp Album" into Google,
then select "images"
He may then select from a bevy of editions.

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Posted 03/04/2018   8:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chris2015 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bob may eventually weight in, but you can check on his blog Filling Spaces and search for "browns"

http://globalstamps.blogspot.com/search?q=browns

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Posted 03/04/2018   9:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You may well have had the "Junior." I did. It really is a "big boy" album just junior to the Brown.
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Posted 03/04/2018   9:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Paul Mitchell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Check out this item number on E-bay ebay item number:232685236727
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Posted 03/05/2018   01:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jkjblue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I had collected when I was a kid and had a nice collection in an 1840-1940 Scott album with a hard binding and light blue cover.



You most likely did have a Scott International 1840-1940 album: They can be found hardbound in a blue or green color. I'm not sure if all of them had "Junior" on the binder or not. Or, your memory may be faulty (It happens ).
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Posted 04/18/2018   9:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DrewM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Hard binding and light blue cover" is almost surely a Scott "Junior" International album which was hardbound but had paper glued onto the boards of the covers. The same album also came in a dark blue cover without the paper on the covers, a bit heavier duty I imagine but a little more money to buy. Because so many were apparently sold, those albums, often in good shape, can still be found today on places like ebay.

As for the other (less "Junior") Scott International albums, they most commonly came in brown covers (hence their nickname of the "Browns") but they also existed back in the 19th century in other covers, as well. These were Scott's comprehensive world albums with a space for every stamp issued while the Junior album was for "representative" stamps only and was more for younger collectors or those without deep pockets. Eventually, there were four volumes of this album, one for the 19th century, one covering 1900-20, one for the decade of the 1920s, and the final one for the remaining years up to (about) 1940. That was about the point when Scott moved their comprehensive "brown" albums over into the Specialty series of country and regional albums, abandoning the browns in favor of the "Junior" album becoming their new worldwide album from that point on.

There were other volumes of the comprehensive album with different dates (your guy mentions "1928-32") along the way as Scott did not want to wait ten or more years before issuing the next volume, so Scott updated the album by publishing what turned out eventually to be interim volumes. I've even seen a few updates for a single year, more like supplements than new volumes, but published in book form.
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Posted 04/19/2018   04:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have 2 of them - they both look exactly like the one in JK's picture. The 1924 version is about 1" thick & the 1933 version is about 3" thick. Both, of course, say 'Junior' on the cover, just like in the above picture...
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Posted 04/19/2018   09:06 am  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KRelyea to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is a 1935 Junior and shows why a looseleaf format was needed. I think I've seen hardbound Junior's printed as late as 1946.


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Posted 04/19/2018   09:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scholarist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If I remember the Big Blue blog correctly, 1947 was the first year that the International was published in a blue binding resembling the current International binders. It was essentially the Junior album slightly rebranded.
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Posted 05/07/2018   8:42 pm  Show Profile Check gmot's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add gmot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have a junior looking exactly like the pictured one. It goes up to mid-1939. The Big Blue Vol. 1 I have goes up to sometime in 1940. So it's interesting to compare the two - they almost match exactly.

Now of course they don't match as I've broken out the Big Blues up to 1959 by country (using some extra blank album pages for those tricky countries that start on overleaf pages - boy I hate that!)
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Posted 05/08/2018   09:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lou to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is my 1947 edition of the Scott International Album.
The second scan depicts the following: "Formerly the International Junior Album".



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Posted 05/08/2018   1:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jkelley01938 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
KRelyea,

Yikes. That is one heck-of-an album!

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