Your Help Again For A Turkey Stamp Without Value On It

Appreciate !
Have gone through Scott cat and this is not a 68.....no value......in my books (bought in the 60s it is under 68 but no way).
René

The face value is 20 paras.

It looks rose and pale rose (the faint background pattern) to me.

Check between 1880 and 1884


Peter

SG calls it a "single colour" 20 paras rose (or 20 paras carmine).

Scott #68 or SG 98, 98a, 103 or 103a,

Scott 68. Very very badly centered copy!

mdroth...you are kidding ???? badly centered (very)might be perforated short....22.5 mm instead of 25 mm on my other 68.

68 Scott describes as 20pa rose and pale rose......do not see the pale rose but......and it has gum LH....SG must be right nigel !

Thanks for the effort guys....will stick to 68 for now

René

Michael is spot on.

The perforation quality varied a lot in these issues. :(

I have many stamps of this design that vary in their overall height by 2mm or more.

??

Don't understand what your confusion is here. The color? The perfs??

Printing - perforations - pretty much everything on these issues - has lots of variation & abnormalities. We'd call them 'EFOs' for lack of a better term. This is just your basic 68 - off centered. You can say 'mis-perf' or 'badly centered' - but those things effectively mean the same thing??

As we've said before - be cautious / skeptical on color descriptions from Scott...

There are 3 different 20 para stamps in this series that look like this:

1 - issued on May 13, 1884. Perf 13

2 - issued in July 1884 - perf 11 1/2

3 - issued on June 17, 1890 - perf 13 1/4 (much lighter/different shade - rose)

Scott doesn't distinguish between #s 1 & 2 - it calls them both #68. Isfila has 2 different catalog numbers for these, depending on perfs....

If you want a Scott ID, yours is #68.

If you want a better understanding, get a different catalog!! (Preferably Isfila!)

Michael
Appreciate your expertise and Thanks - There is no problem - Just starting on Turkey and I appreciate the comments and help - and do not own SG

Rene

No prob Renden. We're very happy to have a new collector of turkey in our midst.

We have an ongoing issue with catalogs. Mostly everyone has Scott. Nigel uses SG. Isfila is the specialty catalog for Turkey. The 3 catalogs do NOT match up & its extremely confusing to talk about Turkey / Ottoman across three different platforms / catalogs.

Rod uses Scott. I have Scott, but for Turkey, I use Isfila. Nigel does SG. I wouldn't recognize an SG if it bit me on the a**....

So: we go round & round on the varying descriptions between the 3 catalogs...

That's a*** to SG users, Michael.

I also use Michel and Pulko.

When learning a language, one gets a phrase book,
"Hello" "Goodbye" "Where is the rest room?"
One does not pick up Shakespeare.

Scott offers a worldwide reference publication, that speaks all languages,
is available to the masses, has a sibling Album page print out, and the price of the very latest catalogue is around $16?

Mock Scott if you wish, but purchase other catalogues at your own risk.

If you are a beginner at Turkey begin with the worldwide reference.

If you are looking for special stamps on ebay, count how many Scott numbers v Isfila.

Rod

I think the Catalogue of choice should be the one that suits the collector.
No one catalogue offers everything.

I Use Scott Turkey for reference, shopping, Album page display.
I use Isfila for the weird and wonderful specialties ID
I use Stanley Gibbons for bits and pieces.
I use the membership of O.N.E.P.S for fabulous stories and monographs
I use Dr. Andreas Birken for vast depth of the Dulos issues, etc.
I rely on, and watch Nigel for the Stationery ID and Postmarks.
I rely on Michael to advise me when I place stamps in the wrong position, on Album pages.

I too am just starting on my Ottoman Stamps, I will be learning from your questions (and maybe some of my own)