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Posted 06/19/2018   11:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jony78 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi all,

I know nothing about Japanese stamps but would welcome any views on these, thanks


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Posted 06/19/2018   12:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Go through this link on the Dragon stamps.Check for the secret marks.
You pics are too small.1 stamp 1 pic is the best.
There are forgeries in your lot.
http://www.geocities.co.jp/HeartLan...4/index.html
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Posted 06/19/2018   1:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jony78 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the reply and link, I will upload some single scans, there are more stamps other than what I've listed.
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Posted 06/19/2018   2:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ClassicalStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Get the forgery-CD from "International Society of Japanese Philately". It's a treasure of information about forgeries of early Japanese stamps:

See a few screenshots here:
http://stampforgeries.com/forged-stamps-of-japan/
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Posted 06/19/2018   3:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jony78 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



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Posted 06/19/2018   3:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jony78 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Posted 06/20/2018   12:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I need to see a much larger and clearer scan to see if those Dragon stamps are forgeries . Even those scans on pages that are link here are too small to make a judgment call.

As discussed the CD's from the Japanese Society are need to make a final opinion .
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Posted 06/20/2018   01:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Posted 06/20/2018   10:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jony78; just looking at your 200mon it's a forgery.floortraders example
is a fake also.



The central character is too square and should be more
rectangular in shape (vertical direction).The dragons hairs do not
touch the left ornaments.The right frames doubled are non existant in the genuine stamps....ect 80% of the time a fake is easy too identify.
You don't need CD's for this stuff.Save your money unless you want to specialize.
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Posted 06/20/2018   1:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"You don't need CD'S for this stuff " ----I hope we are not sending the wrong message . It is always better to have people buy their own research and reference information . Depending on someone on a chat board is the wrong message if they don't have the material and depend on someones website as their opinion .
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Posted 06/20/2018   2:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jony78 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for replies, im still trying to work out my new scanner so will post some better scans soon, by fake are they intending to deceive the collector or postal service?
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Posted 06/20/2018   4:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is an example of what Japanese Philately is about:
Translated from:
http://yosukenaito.blog40.fc2.com/b...gory-13.html
This is a postal matter dispatched from Mizukuchi Postal Service Center to Mr. Otsu on March 3, 1871 (April 22, 1871. The date is generally the lunar calendar in principle), issued on March 1 One sentence of 100 Ryugo stamps that have just been made is affixed. This postal item was put on the delivery route departing Tokyo from March 1st on the first day of postal founding and delivered by water outlet in the course of it, it is the oldest example after the establishment of the modern post in Japan It is known as a masterpiece of the Temashi collection.



You can just go to page 390 for the full scope of literature about these stamps.
https://stamps.org/userfiles/file/l...scoIndex.pdf

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Posted 06/21/2018   07:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jony78 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks perf12, with regards to the mount Fuji set, stampworld shows two years for this set 1929 and 1930, 1929 watermarked and 1930 without, these stamps are watermarked with the wavy lines but measure 22mm x 18mm, am I missing something? ,Thanks
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Posted 06/21/2018   5:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The only set of all Mt. Fiji (1936) is this one? Wmk zig zag lines






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