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American Prisoner In London 1777

 
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Posted 07/16/2018   8:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Penguins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This letter does not look much good, as it is very dirty, and scruffy, but it has fascinating contents written almost 250 years ago, around the time of the Boston Tea party, when the government of King George III of England made decisions which lost the American Colonies to their independence. Was this man a spy? Or a soldier in one of the defeated armies, or a Loyalist who did not want independence from the Mother Country?

I hope I shall be able to accomplish a design I have in view at present which is no less than paying my friend a visit this next winter. I will then relate to you my Persecution in America, my banishment from my native Country, my being taken prisoner at Sea, carried into Liverpool, and after a week's detention released. …

To read the full text of this letter go to

-/letters/Previctorian/livie.html



Note : Lord North was Prime minister and Lord Germaine was Colonial Secretary at this time, so it would appear Mr Livie was moving in political circles, could he have been a spy?

We could find no information about the writer of the letter, which was a pity, as this letter was written shortly after the Declaration of Independence was declared in 1776, and in the same year as the Stars and Stripes was adopted as the Continental Congress Flag, in 1777, so if anyone reading this has any knowledge of Mr R Livie, we would like to know about it.



Heaps of other early letters, some pretty entertaining ones, all Great Britain. Plus lots of other philatelic information advert free.
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Posted 07/16/2018   10:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Freibergs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would guess Loyalist. Many lives were uprooted and even families torn apart such as Ben Franklin's by what was happening in America.
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Posted 07/17/2018   02:17 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ron and Eunice - Just a shot, but perhaps Robert Livie, who pops up in some material from the period - sadly I can't navigate or ead it on my tablet!
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Posted 07/27/2018   6:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Penguins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you both for your comments.

GeoffHa we tried Robert searches but unfortunately no valid responses.

Regards
Ron and Eunice.
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The Russell name is pretty famous, the sixth creation of the Duke of Bedford being a part of the family.

As for the Livie surname, I found these links:

https://archive.org/stream/B-001-00...038_djvu.txt

https://archive.org/stream/genealog...mit_djvu.txt

http://www.tammymitchell.com/surnam...lothian.html

Hopefully they can help you with your research
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Posted 07/28/2018   7:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Penguins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bobby
Many thanks for those links.
Eunice has had a good browse through them all but unfortunately could not come up with anything relevant to her research.

Appreciate your help though.

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Ron
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