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Posted 08/25/2018   11:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Nice Page FT.
If you ever need the Marcilor treatment on the 108p , give us a hoot.

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Posted 08/26/2018   09:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add patrasf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
raymodj, YES, when I had for sale the last book.Not only this stamp.
I do not want to say how much I paid for this stamp overseas.

But YES this site not too impressed for stamps, but a lot of good information in past auction from Mr.Fraser which is interesting. Now is only few objects I keep for sale and I think a 9d GB stamp.
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Posted 08/26/2018   09:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add patrasf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Did already: Frank & Grace is actually me and my wife.
A very big number of forgeries exist, made almost all in Romania.Fournier and Sperati not too many and very very few exist.
Fournier books were destroyed mostly of them.The price in Europe specially in Germany, believe or not some time for this stamp is very high.
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Posted 08/26/2018   09:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add patrasf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



Here is an other forgery MORARIU I think is his name in Romania.

Under the communist/socialist regime, Ceausescu the previous dictator, sold for him self to a Mexican collector a bunch of the genuine and replaced with fakes in the national museum.He sold most of the historical national valuable objects.He had an army of masters in forgeries working for him.One of them is leaving in Ottawa.Before it was YOU DO OR YOU DIE.
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Posted 08/26/2018   11:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok makes sense ,I stated the number of classic forgeries . If Ceausescu was making forgeries then these would be considered modern forgeries and the stamp community would have no reference source for these until someone writes a article or makes a website describing what was going on and details them . Thanks for your information .
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Posted 10/22/2019   9:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add patrasf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
MOLDOVA BULL HEAD OR BETTER HEAD OF AUROCHS.HAND MADE.

ADOLF SERIES, MADE BY FOURNIER ? Or actually everyone was dupe and actualy this is an ORIGINAL and all " GENUINE" sold in Auctions around the world are FAKE made by the specialists during the communist regime during 50 ans.Ceausescu must know about the values. He sold from long time or hiden in some banks safes.

First is not a BULL HEAD but a AUROCHS for the first very first hand made in 1858. BULL HEAD was used on the second issue.

NOBODY is talking about.

They did with most of the ROMANIAN TRESORS. Why not with this?

Here is a small paragraph from Wikipedia:

Starting on July 1, 1858, letters without stamps were placed in mailboxes placed in public squares and at the postal headquarters in Ia#351;i, while in other towns such letters were handed over at the post office. Payment would then be made by the recipient. Although the rates went into effect on July 1, it seems the stamps were not placed into circulation until July 15. Their printing was approved May 26, and four steel dies costing 389 lei had been produced by July 1, the engraver unknown. The stamp sheets were printed one by one with the aid of a manual press; in all, 24,064 stamps were printed. Unlike many stamps of the period, which featured the ruling head of state, Moldavia's had the ancient coat of arms with the head of an aurochs. There is a five-pointed star between the horns. The aurochs' lower lip rests on a post horn, within the inner tube of which is the stamp's value in Arabic numerals. The horn and head are enclosed in a circle. Around this circle, in the interior above the head, are the Romanian Cyrillic letters #1055;#1054;#1056;#1058;#1054; #1057;#1050;#1056;#1048;#1057;#1054;#1056;#1048; (PORTO SCRISORI; "letters to be paid for by the recipient"). The use of the word PORTO is a mistake; FRANCO denotes letters where the postage has been paid by the sender, as was the case for letters using these stamps.[1]

I think the key is not in the design , but more on the tests of the paper.Laid paper was not known in Moldova at the time this stamp printed by hand was made. Here is a key phrase in the same Wikipedia ; According to another variant, the project was undertaken in haste, and leaves of paper were bought from an Ia#351;i bookstore.)[2] Secondly the paper: plastic fibers present? then is a fake.The tests are very costly and only museums can do.Nobody who is selling or sold at huge prices this stamp took time to analyze the paper and the composition.

Also all stamps were cut with scissors. Reason of different dimensions.

Maby we should change the way we decide wich is genuine and which is not.Based on SELLERS? NO.Based on a copy and from which we establish a patern? NO. This what the fakers did in the museums during COMMUNISTS in all EAST EUROPE.

When a circle is perfectly done and is claiming DONE BY HAND specially for the very first edition. IS A FAKE.

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Posted 10/23/2019   7:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danko to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm, this lead to a bigger question, what is real and what is not. Because that what you may think is real, is only real in your head and may not be actually real.
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