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Soaking Stained Revenues

 
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Posted 09/22/2018   7:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add sideshowbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I bought a very inexpensive special tax stamp lot recently on ebay with the intent of experimenting with soaking them to try to remove the stains. A fellow collector had suggested to me that it was possible so I wanted to try it out on something I didn't mind destroying should that happen. This is the stamp I selected:



As can be seen from the scan, this stamp is heavily stained with what is most likely smoke. I first soaked it overnight in warm water and some gentle dish soap I use to wash my daughter's bottles. The result wasn't what I had hoped for:



While it did lighten a bit, I was hoping for more. It was suggested I try for longer with a stronger dish soap so I did. The result of the last soaking was better:



As one can see from the last image, the stamp cleaned up tremendously. The only issue is that the red partially washed out and now appears to be orange. I am hoping to try the next one from the lot soon only soak a bit less time to see if I can get most of the staining out without also fading the red.
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Posted 09/22/2018   7:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Personally, I like the first soak, retains the overall condition.
The second soak looks to me like damaged.
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Posted 09/22/2018   7:27 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Unless your scanner/image editing software is playing tricks, not only did this soap lighten the paper, it also turned the reds into orange. High bleach content?
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Posted 09/22/2018   7:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sideshowbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It definitely turned the reds into orange. I mentioned that in the original post. I used Dawn Ultra Platinum which does contain sodium hydroxide (lye) but no bleach.
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Posted 09/22/2018   7:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My first thought would have been to try hydrogen peroxide, not dish soap.
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Posted 09/22/2018   8:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I never try to remove stains from special tax stamps. They were on display for an entire year, in this case in a store, a bar or a club. In any case it was some place with a lot of smoking and possibly a lot of drinking and dancing and other activities. I know of no way to safely remove those kinds of stains.
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Posted 09/22/2018   9:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 91stang to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
peroxide, stamp smarter-good write up with pictures-no dish soap as you found out-
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Posted 09/22/2018   11:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sideshowbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I got the lot of 4 of these for $7.50 specifically to do things to them like soak them in heavy dish soap. The Retail Dealer in Ferment Malt Liquor is a very common Special Tax Stamp and really nice copies for the years I am experimenting on are readily had for reasonable prices, thus the experiments. Given the quality of the lot, I would not have considered purchasing it for my collection otherwise. I plan on trying hydrogen peroxide on the next one just to see what happens. The question I am trying to answer is am I able to rehabilitate some common special tax stamps, like liquor and tobacco stamps, without damaging them. I wouldn't actually try it on anything of higher value. For instance, I would love to remove the stains from either of these but wouldn't ever actually attempt it.



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Posted 09/23/2018   12:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Both are scarce, but the In Lieu Of in particular is quite scarce.
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