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Posted 09/30/2018   8:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Ireland2018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I need to sort out my Germany stamps. Not sure I'd this is the best one for the questions.the person who sorted the bulk before I got them had 3 envelopes. 2 say Reich and one says german. In all 3, there is a mix of German, ddr(duetch democraatic republic) and ones that say deutch. I know German in on their own, ddr if I'm not mistaken is east Germany. What would be the other one of jusr Reich be? Thanks.
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Posted 09/30/2018   8:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The word Reich could mean a lot of different things ,maybe that is what is written on the stamps that were sorted ,no idea without a scan or pictures of the stamps .
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Posted 09/30/2018   8:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ireland2018 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can get some pictures I the morning when the lighting is better.
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Posted 09/30/2018   11:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vayolene to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In Michel catalog all german stamps issued from 1872 to 1944 are listed under "Deutsches Reich" (something like "German Empire",even when Germany was a republic)
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Posted 10/01/2018   08:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ireland2018 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Vayolene, Intresting.

I tried taking a pic, by they kept coming out blurry. I looked at them, some said ddr, some Reich post, and Dutch Reich.



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Posted 10/01/2018   09:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vayolene to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The inscription "Deutsches Reich" is very common from 1902 to 1944 (your stamp is Michel #756,issued in 1940)
The inscription "Reichspost" was used from 1889 to 1900.
https://www.stampworld.com/de/stamp...16325&page=2
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Posted 10/01/2018   09:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danstamps54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ireland2018,

The top stamp you posted is an East German official (DDR) stamp. Scott O18.

The second stamp is a semi-postal from Germany (1940) Scott number B182.

I'm curious about the DDR official. Could I see a closeup of the back of the stamp? It looks like it might be on granite paper. (or it could be dirt on my screen...) If it is granite paper, it's a variation not specifically listed in Scott and is pretty scarce. (Michel 2009 value 700 - 1000 Euro)

Dan
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Posted 10/01/2018   10:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ireland2018 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Danstamps54, I got these 2 off the net till I could get decet ones of mine. When I tried o get pictures earlier, they would be blurry. I'll go try again.
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Posted 10/01/2018   11:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Willwood42 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As others have pointed out the wording on German stamps "Reichspost", "Deustches Reich", "Deutches Post", "Deutsches Bundespost", and "DDR or Deutsches Demokratische Republik" in general indicate the time period the stamps were issued or whether they come from the former East Germany. There is at least one exception, a series of German stamps issued under Russian Occupation, Scott 10N29-44, and a series of East German stamps, Scott 122-136. These can only be told by their watermarks.

German issued under Russian occupation, Scott 10N42



East Germany, Scott 133



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Posted 02/01/2019   4:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So it seems I am in almost the same position as the OP. Can anyone recommend a site to read up in a concise manner the time periods, nomenclature of the German Periods? Also, danstamps54 - question - just trying to figure it out. Scott O18's value is listed due to being a set, unused and on granite, right? It says the value used is 5.50. Here are a few I have - I think the R and middle are granite, but these are used.


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Posted 02/01/2019   5:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danstamps54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamps4life,

It does seem from your picture that the center and right stamps are on granite paper. You need to do one more step: check the watermark. A redrawn 5 Pf stamp on granite paper with a watermark of 313 is a O37. It is pretty common. The scarce stamp is a redrawn stamp on granite paper with a 297 watermark.

The value for the O18 is for a single stamp. The note in Scott is for the value of a set of redrawn stamps on granite paper with a 297 watermark.

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Posted 02/02/2019   12:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamps4Life to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Dan - I have the granites below and am trying to id the watermarks - I think they are 313. Can you tell with these bad pics???






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Posted 02/02/2019   4:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danstamps54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamps4life,

It is really difficult to accurately tell the watermark from those pictures, especially the last two pictures.

Try laying them flat against a black background and then apply the watermark fluid you are using.

If you have other DDR stamps, practice on them too. Generally it isn't too difficult to see the difference between a 292 and a 313 wmk. The biggest problem I've found is with mint stamps. Sometimes the gum is too thick and obscures the watermark.

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