Kansas City, MO Precancel On 1c Franklin (Green)+unknown Type On Postcard

I've tried measuring both but not sure what these measurements would refer to. Any help is well appreciated!

Do some research.

http://www.stampsmarter.com/index.html

gswarriorz, So based on the links to stamp identifiers posted in reply to your previous posts, what Scott # do you think these 2 stamps are?
(Hint, start with a perforation gauge and throw away the ruler.)

And, once you know the stamp, you can head on over to:

http://www.precancels.com/

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey

UM.....
1. Pre cancelled?
2. I just about spilled my coffee getting to this post-
3. It would have in black bold letters on the face of Mr. Franklin, thats the guy on your stamp, he was a postmaster, inventor and many other things, something about a key and a kite and lightning come to mind, KANSAS CITY.
4. Then below that would be, 'MO'
5. I notice from your pics, placement of the measurement device. Some high, some low-
6. STAMPSMARTER, DON, had a post a while back about how collectors measure stamps-excellemt post-find it, I would study it and read it.
7. Your close but I think you have a faded post mark.
8. I think your stamp is right about 0.25usd and not 100k.
9. Trust me, I scan every postcard at every antique store looking for 'KANSAS CITY' precancelled stamps
10. I'm tired of working for a living also-
good luck, enjoy stamps and read read and then read some more; I do almost everynight-

I think this is what your looking for, maybe.

http://stampsmarter.com/learning/Ma...methods.html
Don

the precancel is Kansas City MO PSS-141, cv 0.15 USD

91stang. I understand this is the 254,768 "I think I have stamp worth thousands" post, but your sarcastic, belittling response is the reason I, am admitted novice that is aware of 1847 and other sites, don't post here. If I do it's only after exhausting all resources at my disposal, only to find out when I post a question, I receive a answer quickly from someone much more knowledgeable. I'm in my 30's, work 60-70 hours a week, have a 4 year old and a 4 month old. When I do have time to sit down for some down time with stamps, it would be nice to try and figure out an answer to a question I've been trying to figure out for 20 minutes by just posting the question on here for a fast answer after I've tried for a while. I'll just keep reading here and someday know as much as all of you.

Magguss: Good response. Keep reading here. Read articles and books by respected authors and published by respected groups. Join a specialty group or two when you get to that point in your collecting life.

Magguss -

Don't take it personally. It's actually like the 254,768,000th time. The responses are trying to both retain & educate the potential collectors, while also discouraging the treasure-seekers. Regardless of how snarky it was, the question was answered...

Don't ever hesitate to post a question. You'll get answers quickly & feel free to ignore anything that appears unwelcoming. It is not the intent to discourage collectors.

Answers to these types of threads seem to fall into 3 main types:
1 - "Teach them how to fish" by pointing out the tools they need to acquire and learn to use, so they can solve their immediate question and more of their own questions in the future. The first few replies to this thread take that approach, although the original poster has disappeared from us.
2 - "Give them a fish" by ID'ing their stamp and they keep coming back for us to do their work for them. Responders could have just told the original poster his first stamp was a 597, a perf 10 vertical coil, the only coil of that design, identifiable by sight.
3 - The rest of the replies, which often go off tangent - like this whole reply, I suppose.

Overall, new collectors (and old timers beginning in a new area) who demonstrate a true interest in coming up the learning curve get better and more polite responses. "I measured the perfs and get 11x10.5, do I have a 632?" will get more replies than "Tell me what I have and what its worth." I agree with mdroth's statement above "It is not the intent to discourage collectors.", but the reality is that those who show learning or show they are making an attempt to learn will often get more encouragement.

One challenge of boards like this is the lack of "tone" that an actual conversation can contain. Replies here differ considerably in tone (and intended tone) and feathers sometimes get ruffled. Each person has a different style. Some post (Tweet?) very short replies which can come as gruff or impolite. Some replies more lengthy. I like to reply with a scan of an actual item to expand the thread - a picture is worth a thousand words. Those who come off as fools (and trolls) are soon found out and go away.

Treasure hunters: Yep, I measured my black Hardings, but I also bought a Mega Millions ticket since the odds of the lottery are just as good.

I do appreciate all of your feedback and sarcasm and links to further information. I'm in no way offended by it I myself can riddle along but choose not to. I'm not a treasure hunter I'm sitting on a pretty penny and have been for years. I received a bag of the green 1c Franklin stamps and a few stood out so I asked! Like I said thank y'all much appreciated! I just have a strong interest in stamps and I prefer to ask folks in real time who's active on forums . You guys tell me to get a perforation gauge. I may have waited a bit but it's on the way. I will do my own homework from now on and I will figure this out! Hopefully in the near future we can collide again and bounce information off one another!

Most replies are honestly acknowledged thoroughly. I take what you tell me and screenshot it on my iPhone. Used as notes. Others I just skip over with the famous quote in mind "Ignore the ignorant " as I continue to scroll! All love no hate this way! I'd rather fish in the ocean water rather that my local lakes. Meaning, I have my hand in many hobbies of interest currently so that, along with my personal life places hurdles ahead of my "free time" I will finish the race. No matter where I place in the end! Happy Friday folks!

Good news! Having the basic tools is so important to getting the most out of the hobby.

@john yes you're right I understand that now! I can understand why some would reply basically forwarding me to links and information. I have to lay down the foundation if I want to build a castle. Patient as I await it's arrival