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Future Of White Ace Albums?

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Posted 01/23/2019   09:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BwanaBob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My guess is they would have treated the sheet of 20 as a souvenir sheet and put it on one page and the ten individual stamps on another. In the later years I was getting angry with some of their decisions. The Georgia O'Keefe issue was the one that really pissed me off. It was not a souvenir sheet. There should have been just a single space. Yet they did the right thing with the Lunar New Year stamps. No rhyme or reason. And don't get me started on how on two occasions they put the Literary arts stamp (which was clearly a commemorative) in the regular issue pages. Maybe in the end they were just losing staff thru attrition and age and no one was picking up the editorial slack; it seemed the decisions were arbitrary, or at least not being made by actual stamp collectors.
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Posted 01/23/2019   10:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mystic has been inconsistent at times too but not sure your definition of souvenir sheet. Is the descriptive selvage? The USPS does not issue many true souvenir sheets that typically cater to a current event.

For Legends of Hollywood, Mystic provided spaces for both (full sheet, single) if you removed the full pane the back side information is wrong.



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Posted 01/23/2019   2:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BwanaBob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's what I mean. To me the selvage in the Legends of Hollywood sheets are just that - selvage. White Ace treated those and other sheets as "souvenir sheets" in that they got their own spaces. And don't get me started on multi-issue "commemorative" booklets. I wish they'd never been created.
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Posted 01/23/2019   11:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BrentAbba to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I do have several varieties of the blank White Ace pages around here. I will see about scanning some for those who want to try them as templates. Not sure how that works with any copyright claim from Washington Press though?
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Posted 01/24/2019   03:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Louise411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BawanaBob

"The Georgia O'Keefe issue was the one that really pissed me off. It was not a souvenir sheet. There should have been just a single space"

Were they perhaps a bunch of different flowers?
Respectfully to you as a collector; I do not care what makes you urinate; This site is heavily moderated so I guess if you could say that I could say that. I would love for someone to post the O'Keefe stamp pictures. I suppose if it was just one flower you might have a point.
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Posted 01/24/2019   08:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is the sheet and it was issued somewhat early in the mini-sheet phase so maybe album makers had not finalized a policy.

Maybe the USPS thought it should be framed....

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Posted 01/24/2019   09:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BwanaBob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Am I being whooshed? Do you not know being pissed off means "angry"? It meant it made me angry at White Ace for that editorial decision, the first of many bad ones.

Mini-sheets confused a lot of publishers. When the Civil War anniversary mini-sheets came out, White Ace required a sheet, a se-tenant pair, and the two individual stamps. Not sure what Scott did.

I wish mini-sheets would go away. But that's never going to happen.
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Posted 01/25/2019   05:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Louise411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I will admit that I love Georgia O'Keeffe and am biased. Thank you for the picture. They should have used all different flowers. I am still learning and will be a Thousand years or so. Now I must have this mini sheet of hers. No, I do not know how to whoosh I am fairly direct. Thank all for the great info.
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Posted 01/25/2019   07:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have a Mystic album but they do similar things. For the pages I do not like, I just create custom pages. For example, self-adhesive booklet stamps offer a challenge so I usually just mount the entire booklet rather than deal with the block or individual stamps. This is true of blocks that have more than 4 designs.
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Posted 05/08/2019   12:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just spoke with one of the owners of White Ace. They have sold the business to a larger company that will continue to produce White Ace albums and pages. It is likely that there will be an announcement next month, June, 2019. She said to sit tight, White Ace will continue.
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Posted 05/12/2019   11:11 pm  Show Profile Check Stamps1962's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Stamps1962 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Continue.. but, I'd guess with very reduced scope. Probably just the US pages.
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Posted 05/13/2019   08:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The question is if most customers collect new issues or not. For a print on demand service for already created pages, it should not be a big burden.
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Posted 05/13/2019   7:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DrewM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So White Ace will continue? I hope that's true, but they did have a "final" clearance sale of all their pages a few months ago.

I know this because I, very unusually for me, went ahead and bought hundreds of dollars of White Ace pages for a few albums I was still debating using as my main albums (with Scott and a few other choices) for United Nations and Israel. White Ace's announcement that they were closing shop and that this would be the last opportunity to buy these pages, made me decide to buy them. Plus I bought some other White Ace pages on the spur of the moment since they weren't going to ever be available again.

I'm not upset in any way. Really. White Ace pages are good, but if they had continued along in business, I would not have bought all these pages. Instead, I would have continued to consider which albums I wanted to use for UN and Israel (and the others). And when I made a decision I would have gone ahead and "started" to buy those pages group by group over a period of years. I bought them all at once, however, because I thought it was my last opportunity.

Again, I'm not angry, but just pointing this out. A "closing down forever" sale sure makes people want to buy your products. Now if they go back into business under a new owner, can I return any page groups I decide I don't want? I probably wouldn't do that, but it would be interesting to know.

I'm glad White Ace will (apparently) remain in business as I think their pages are unique, very different from other manufacturers' pages. My main complaints about WA pages was their small size designed for 3-ring binders which I don't much like, and their insistence of including spaces for both blocks of se-tenant stamps and singles of the same stamps. That made no sense to me. Either one or the other, please.

I guess I'll look forward to June (or whenever) to see if they're going to remain in business or not. I'm still missing my 2014 UN supplement!

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Posted 05/13/2019   11:08 pm  Show Profile Check Stamps1962's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Stamps1962 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Any guess as to who the company is that is buying their brand? Subway? Mystic?
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Posted 05/14/2019   07:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I had read that Mystic declined initially but a savvy firm may want to wait until after it is out of business so it gets the assets (not the debts) it wanted.
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