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Seahorse Neat Cancel Or Not?

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Posted 10/30/2018   08:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Anglophile to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'm new to this hobby so I'm currently struggling to correctly determine the value of some stamps from my collection.

I don't want to sell my lovely stamp for a lower price than it's actually worth

So would you consider this as a neat cancel?



£5 or £30?


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Posted 10/30/2018   09:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely on the lower end... What worries me more than cancel are some nibbled perforations and toning (possibly foxing) on 10 different spots.

I could live with few short perfs, but not with foxing. It would make this effectively a spacefiller worth nothing (at least on my books).

-k-
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Posted 10/30/2018   09:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGVIStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am not sure what you mean by neat, but it looks like a postal cancel. I see Manchester August 7, 1934 in the CDS. So it was used during the time this stamp would be in use. I see a short perf, and the cancel is a little heavy.
Based on the fact that the portrait has horizontal lines (not horizontal and vertical), I would guess that it is SG 416 (£120). You might want to measure the stamp to see if it is 22mm or 22.75mm high. SG 416 is 22.75MM high. If you get 22MM then it is probably SG 409 (£350).
Measure the printed portion of the stamp not the border.
Both stamp options have a good catalog value as noted above, but I don't really see used stamps reaching anywhere near the catalog value, especially with a short perf so I wouldn't get real excited about it. But it is still a nice copy.
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Posted 10/30/2018   09:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These sell here in the US for under $5.00(US), as noted by SCB I would expect around $1 - $2.
Sorry
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Posted 10/30/2018   10:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Anglophile to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your answers!
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Posted 10/30/2018   3:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGVIStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don, if you actually have any 5/ Seahorses used with postal cancels that are not damaged, I would happily buy them from you for $1-$2 each. Let me know.
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Posted 10/30/2018   3:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For the issue, I would say it's neat and clean. While circular postmarks are not rare on these, especially since collectors tended to save the good-looking ones, many high values like this have heavy barred roller cancels used for parcels.
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Posted 10/30/2018   3:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Look at ebay 'sold' listings, there are many SG 416s that sold for a few dollars.

If you really want to buy at under a few dollars, here are some current listings


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sg416-5s-r...i:rk:20:pf:0

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SG416-5-RO...v:rk:16:pf:0

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SG416-5-RO...O:rk:15:pf:0

https://www.ebay.com/itm/693-VERY-G...P:rk:10:pf:0

https://www.ebay.com/itm/George-V-S...FR:rk:8:pf:0

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GB-KGV-SEA...c:rk:20:pf:0


Here is one page that I have handy, if you donate $50 (less than $5 per stamp) to Stamp Smarter I will send them to you.

Don




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Thanks for the links and the scan, but those are all revenue cancels except for the first link which was postmarked in Jersey. I couldn't make out the year, but it looks interesting. I was looking for actual postal cancellations. I will bid on the Jersey stamp, but it is already about $5 with shipping charges and two other bidders.
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Posted 10/30/2018   7:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, you are right, the OP should quit his day job and ask hundreds of dollars for his stamp.
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Posted 10/30/2018   8:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
KGVIStamps, those are not revenue cancels, those are parcel cancels. Some of them even clearly read "parcel". Revenues would be done in blue/blue violet and would be different types altogether.
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Posted 10/30/2018   9:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I wish they did fetch good $. I have piles of them. I cannot open the most rudimentary album without seeing one or three.
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Posted 10/31/2018   12:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Anglophile to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Ok, you are right, the OP should quit his day job and ask hundreds of dollars for his stamp.
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yay finally good news for me hahaha
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Posted 10/31/2018   01:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good to see you are taking the feedback wight laughter :) Stamp values are complex, and even most of us "more advanced" rarely get estimates right. It's all about supply and demand - and they are very much local thingies.

Possibly a more worthy question would be how much did you pay for the Seahorse stamp on the first place? And when/where was that? It should give you a good ballpark on what you can realistically expect (in lines of "if you paid the amount once, another newbie collector will do the same in future , LOL).

-k-

PS. And when selling anything that is worth a bit more, it is always good to show the back of the stamp as well. Most of collectors are pretty pessimistic and assume the worst (thins, crease marks etc) unless proven otherwise.
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Posted 10/31/2018   05:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Anglophile to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's not the end of the world haha :)

I have 4 more seahorses :) May I hear good news this time?
Are they worth anything?




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Posted 10/31/2018   10:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmm... I'd start with good old-fashioned soak with all. All have got "gunk" on the back, which makes it hard to assess reality (and stamps bit unattractive).

The topmost Half-crown brown has got neat/nice cancel, but there's perf damage on the right side.

5/- red has got damaged corner, and some foxing on few perfs.

Bottom-most Half-crown seems solid with exception of foxing.

And that corgeous 10/-... Oh if it wasn't for those stains and foxing.

So all "space fillers" of some degree... It's all about condition, condition, condition these days. Surely somebody will buy these if the price is right (say south of 5% of catalog value). But that's just my opinion.

-k-
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