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Envelope 1 Cent Franklin 1905 Predates Release Date?

 
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Posted 11/05/2018   6:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add richar babcock to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I dont no much about these, Could use some help on date die types Thank you
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Posted 11/05/2018   7:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ThomasGalloway to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Could use some help on date die types . . . "

Are you asking for the die type of the embossed stamp, or the type of the cancellation die?

It looks to me like a die 2 stamp.

Others can chime in on the cancellation type.
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Posted 11/05/2018   7:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's a Barry straight-line machine cancel - common.
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Posted 11/05/2018   8:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add richar babcock to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
the date predates the 1 cent Franklin release date of 1907.Or was it released earlier?
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Posted 11/06/2018   08:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ThomasGalloway to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm having trouble determining the year in the date. What do others think it is?

The Mercantile Corporation took over the job as envelope contractor to the USPOD in early 1907.

Mr. Babcock: can you tell us the watermark please?
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Posted 11/06/2018   10:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bangor Maine used this Barry machine cancel into 1909 with many similar town dies. This town die appears to match die "Lg" used in 1908. See Morris & Payne's "The Barry Story", vol 3, page 38, and compare the R at the end of Bangor. I vote for a 1908 use.
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Posted 11/06/2018   5:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add richar babcock to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
watermark is a large double lined U.S 60j.Have compared Rs in Bangor with one on ebay . Back line of my R is thin and tapers down and centre of my r is thin. comma after R, ebay 1908 back line of R is thick and same size and the way down, center of R thick. I will add high square back type cover and never sealed glue not used to seal flap
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