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Excluding More Than Half Of Stamp Collectors In The World?

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Posted 12/30/2018   04:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add pennyblackie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
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Posted 12/30/2018   04:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes that's disappointing when you see that. I've had successful transactions with stamp collectors from various Asian and South American countries as well as South Africa, Egypt and Israel.

I've never bought or sold with Russia but I did buy a stamp that was sent from Latvia last year. It took 54 days to receive
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Edited by Bobby De La Rue - 12/30/2018 04:35 am
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Posted 12/30/2018   04:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pennyblackie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This ebayer is a stamp dealer, I would have expected stamp dealers to be more open to dealing with buyers all around the world.
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Edited by pennyblackie - 12/30/2018 04:52 am
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Posted 12/30/2018   05:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm 99.99% positive I've had no dealings with them.

Edit: Let's make it 100%, I had a look at what they sell and the prices they're asking.
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Edited by Bobby De La Rue - 12/30/2018 05:05 am
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Posted 12/30/2018   05:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So what is the solution? Force all sellers to sell into every country? Are stamp sellers supposed to take more risk than other sellers? I do not understand this thread.

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Posted 12/30/2018   05:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is there a buying service possible to reship>
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Posted 12/30/2018   05:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pennyblackie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Asia is a huge continent comprising of many first world countries with first rate postal service. When you mention "risk", are you referring to the risk of mails getting lost or risk in dealing with Asian buyers?
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Posted 12/30/2018   06:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A seller only knows if they have had repeated issues with buyers receiving purchases from Country XYZ. There is no way to determine where the risk lies; only that they have had repeated losses.
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Posted 12/30/2018   06:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pennyblackie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Point taken, and I can understand excluding specific countries, what I do not understand is the exclusion of entire continents. There are 48 countries in Asia alone.
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Edited by pennyblackie - 12/30/2018 06:09 am
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Posted 12/30/2018   06:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The exclusion of Singapore and Japan at the expense of say Afghanistan seems odd to me. Just an example though. I'd love to hear of anyone successfully transacting with a stamp collector in Afghanistan, I really would!!
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Posted 12/30/2018   06:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It appears he desires to sell mostly to English speaking countries; perhaps he has had communication issues with certain languages.
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Posted 12/30/2018   07:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pennyblackie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If the seller is conversant in just English, I think he would do better trying to understand a Singaporean than a French.
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Edited by pennyblackie - 12/30/2018 07:15 am
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Posted 12/30/2018   08:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have bought & sold stamps from every country.The 2 times I have lost purchases was
Registered mail in the Roissy transit Zone(Paris); stolen.And 1 sale sent by
Registered mail too Germany; stolen in the Frankfurt transit Zone.
Sometimes lost things in the mail are closer to your home than you might think.
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Posted 12/30/2018   08:56 am  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KRelyea to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My Insurance company "Shipsaver" from ebay excludes the following:


Quote:
Excluded countries
The following countries are NOT covered by this insurance! B. Shipments sent to Afghanistan, Angola, Bolivia, Burma, Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), Republic of the Congo, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Ivory Coast (Cote d'Ivoire), Liberia, Nigeria, North Korea, Paraguay, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Venezuela. Any location that would be in violation of any U.S. economic or trade sanctions including OFAC Restricted Countries. For shipments to Russian and other Commonwealth of Independent States countries (includes Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Russia, Russian Federation, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan) coverage ceases upon touchdown of the aircraft at the airport of destination or upon discharge from the overseas vessel at the destination discharge port. (This list is subject to change.)


I try to match my excluded countries to this list.
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Posted 12/30/2018   10:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CanadaStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perf12. I also have sold worldwide. I have has more rip-offs from USA "buyers" than any other country. Only 4 or 5 - but that's a lot really.
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Posted 12/30/2018   10:51 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Could be any number of reasons, all of them legitimate:

1. History of losses. For a period of time, I refused to ship to Italy and Germany due to excessive item not received claims from those 2 countries.

2. Third-party insurer exclusions as Ken references above.

3. Language barrier difficulties. About 8 years ago I had a spate of Chinese buyers sending me messages through ebay... in Chinese characters. I had no clue what they wanted and Google Translate in its fledgling state couldn't do anything with the messages. Also several buyers who had Chinese characters in their shipping addresses, which the shipping label system just choked on. Too much hassle to deal with for $5-10 sales, so I stopped shipping to China.

At the end of the day it is every seller's right to choose where and to whom they wish to sell.
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