Penny Black Penny Reds

Hi all Im new in this forum. I need help to determine the value of this penny reds and penny black and also with the other old british stamps.
I have the opportunity to buy this sheed of stamps (photo) for a reasonable price, Im not familiar with old united kingdom stamps Im specialised in US stamps most the old ones. so maybe one of you can help me.
Thanks

The penny reds vary greatly in price based on the plating. You would want to look out for a plate 225 which is #163;800 used.

Hi pennyblackie I know that the reds has enormous price differentials like the blacks. I couldnt understand the determination with the initial letters and as I understand there are other issues to view. The Squares and the beams inside the square.
What you think is this sheet worth 500 USD on condition that they are not forged.

Condition is everything, and I see lots of faults. Without this in-hand, or individual pictures, I would be hesitant in paying much. All of the value is probably in the Penny Black. In my opinion, about US$100 for the lot.

I don't know how to value the perfins but the penny black looks about the only stamp with some value worth mentioning. A good 4 margin penny black can be bought for under £100, but yours is 3 margined. I just purchased a 4 margined penny black with a complete black Maltese cross on cover for just £107, so I wouldn't think your penny black would fetch that range (unless of course it is a plate 11).

Probably less than $100, assuming (a) the 1d black isn't a scarcer plate and (b) it has no further damage, and then only if you wanted them for your own collection, rather than for resale

Several of these are not "old British stamps." In the second row, the last five stamps are from the Australian state of Victoria, which issued its own stamps prior to Australia becoming a commonwealth in 1901. The ones in the third row with the On H M S (On his or her Majesty's Service) overprint are official stamps from India,and the one in the fourth row with a Melbourne cancellation is also probably from Victoria. I believe all of the ones in the first row are also not from Great Britain, but can't see enough detail to see where they are from, but I also believe there's not a great deal of value. Because there's such a great deal of variation, depending on watermark and perforation gauge, some of the Victorias might be worth a few bucks, but you'd have to have the stamps actually in hand to check them

thanks waddsbadds for clarification. peenyblackie but you know lesser the ink mark more value has the penny black? This penny black has a very subtile ink mark that make the value greater.
I dont agree with you and others abouth the value. but I appreciate your opinion.

If you choose to buy them, tell us what you find once you have them in hand.

With respect, I don't get this type of enquiry,
you seek a value, yet you say they are a reasonable price
This suggests you already know value,
If you care to offer the price you are considering, then we can give you approximations of whether the price is within parameters.

Yes I agree. Ok I was disappointed and couldnt believe that on this forum you valued the red pennies and one black under 100 USD. Im not familiar with european stamps at all and I believed that red pennies and blacks are always valuable and not under 100 USD one piece. But Im wrong so I apologize.
The seller whant 200 USD for the sheet .

I think that reds only go for a dollar or two. A good penny black will go for much more, but only for a four margin sample, but this is only three margins, at best. I can't see the plate numbers, which would make a huge difference.

I would side with Geoff on these, with the caveat on the Penny Black, which I don't get involved with, the price bounces around all over the place.

It is a nice collection of stamps, nice interesting postmarks, however the devil is in the detail. Any one of them could be valuable, but you must consider they most probably have been picked over. Valuable stamps very rarely get missed unless they are "Flyspeck errors" identified only by expensive specialist catalogues.

I would have passed over immediately at $200 US

rod222 thanks for your opinion and advise.