1c 1857 Plate 11 Stamps

Here is a stamp that I recently purchased as a #20. It appears to be a #22 from plate 11 left pane with the left side guide line clearly visible. The bottom plumes look very complete. An interesting stamp.

Yes, that's a left pane B relief, Ty IIIA. Very nice.

Here's a Plate 11 A Relief Type IIIA Scott #22 (somewhat faulty) with guideline running vertically through right side. For anyone who might be considering using Mystic Stamp Company's ID service, they identified this as a Scott #24 despite the fact that the bottom frame line is clearly unbroken. An elementary error.

This just arrived. I believe it might be plate 11. It has the secret mark and to me it doesn't match the 5 possible positions on plate 12.






There appears to be a plating mark through ornament Q

Good going stallzer!
That's a 1R column centerline B relief from plate 11.

I'm sure that the group working on plate 11 will want to see this.
Nice find.

Thanks TX. I'm surprised this one didn't get more attention in the auction. I thought it to be a beautifully centered piece with very good side margins. The auction scan wasn't good enough to try and plate but with only 5 type II first column pieces on plate 12 I knew if it was plate 12 plating would be easy. Not much reference material for plate 11. I looked through the Neinken & Diporto references but really nothing there to help. Haven't been through the Siegel archives yet. Please feel free to pass this image to anyone who might find it useful.

I neglected to mention it is a Ty IIIA #22 broken at top, per the B relief.

Well that's a nice surprise. It was listed as a type II #20. Since I couldn't positively see the break I bid according to the auction description.

I have just one Plate 11 stamp - a #22, Relief "B". It was last sold at Siegel sale 1179 (lot 2124), and described as Plate 12. The 2013 PSE cert (#1260179) states it is Plate 11, however, and I suspect Siegel just make a mistake. It doesn't look to me like any of the few type IIIA stamps from Plate 12.

widglo46, definitely a Plate 11 A Relief.

dudley - I see now that it is an "A" relief. The top left line on the left is short as in the "A" relief, and the plumes are less complete than the "B" relief. I was concentrating on the top line on the right. It is longer on my stamp than the typical "A" relief, and Neinken makes the point, "The length of the top line at the right identifies the difference between "A" and "B" stamps.

Thanks for correcting me.

I concur, that's a nice plate 11 stamp.

A thread about a centerline Plate 11 stamp here, for reference:

https://goscf.com/t/75247

Here is a Plate 11 A Relief Double Transfer that matches Neinken's illustration Fig 22-U on p. 447.

that is a cool double transfer! I assume the position on plate 11 is unknown?