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Gruesome China Real Photo Postcard For Sale On Ebay

 
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Posted 01/21/2019   12:04 pm  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add KRelyea to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This is an interesting item. It's mailed from Hong Kong to US in 1905, and is quite nice but when you look at the picture it is pretty gruesome;






This item can be seen here;

https://www.ebay.com/itm/362536124011

Please look at my other items too!

Thanks,

Ken

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Posted 01/21/2019   2:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add centerstage98 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can't fathom why anyone would want this.
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Posted 01/21/2019   2:48 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A moment in history. What I really worry about are the people who fill their homes with WWII German uniforms, weaponry etc!
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Posted 01/21/2019   4:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I experienced a full frame of these Worldwide thematics at the Western Australian Philatelic Exhibition, about 6 years ago, from a prominent Philatelist.

It was titled "Man's inhumanity to man"
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I asked my resident China expert whether these were criminal or political prisoners; she reports 'no clue'.

She questions, however, whether the cages were about shaming, punishment, or death.

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This is probably an image that was taken after the Boxer Rebellion in China in which prisoners were put to a slow death. It's hard to see in the image, but prisoners are placed into these boxes with their head secure above. When they are first placed into them they are standing on a pile of thin slates of wood or rock. Each day one of those slates is removed from under their feet until they are on tippy-toe and they eventually just strangle themselves, break their neck, or just die from exhaustion or lack of water. This is just one of the methods of execution used at the time.
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Posted 01/22/2019   9:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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This image should not be described with the word's "Real Photo", as those words have a specific meaning to post card collectors, and this ain't one of those.

http://www.metropostcard.com/tech7-realphoto.html

It has almost certainly been produced from an actual photograph - probably by a halftone process - but it is misleading to call it a "Real Photo PC".

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Posted 01/22/2019   9:41 pm  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KRelyea to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ikey kindly sent me an email detailing why this isn't a real photo as follows;


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It is an ordinary postcard, featuring an image reproduced from a photograph.

I'm guessing that it is a half-tone; under magnification, can you see tiny dots?

Real Photo Post Cards were produced on (wait for it) real photograph paper, that is, paper with an emulsion that, once exposed to light, reacted to form the image. For some decades, this was pretty much a onesy-twosy kind of thing, with the photographer often scratching some sort of descriptive caption onto the image.

They often age badly, eg, if they are exposed to light, heat, etc.

Post-WW1, while the US went the way of those ugly "white border" cards that offered eye-bending mis-registered color images, some of the major European publishers went to mass-produced photo post cards (I call them RPP2s, but that's me), wherein a continuous roll of real photographic paper passed thru a 'press' where it was exposed to the same negative, again & again.

These RPP2s can be LOVELY; the photographers dragged these massive Hasselblad cameras around - the negatives were on the order of 10" by 16", if memory serves - and the resolution of the printed images was fantastic. These postcards were common thru the 1950s; towards the end, you can find them colorized.

Anyway, what you've got is a "postcard, featuring a gruesome image reproduced from a photograph"



I have no doubt he's correct but what I don't know is if this is the common understanding in the ebay 'Real Photo" category? There are 158,000 postcards listed and I suspect the actual real photo postcards are a small subset of the 158,000 cards. If these postcards are listed incorrectly I would happily end the auction and return them to their owner.
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