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30c Columbus At LA Rabida, # 239, How Would It Grade

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Posted 02/08/2019   10:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Dutch US Stamp Collector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
hi community,

found this beauty in a collection.
2 questions: how would it grade, centring and the 1 short perf, and perhaps what the experts see and I overlooked
2. there is no mention of unused, no gum in scott for theese..what would this be worth?

thank you in advance


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Posted 02/08/2019   3:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add quigngt to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As far as centering I would venture at least XF maybe Superb. The top right corner and short perf would most likely lower grading. I can't tell if it has original gum or none at all in the scan. It is a beauty though.
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Posted 02/08/2019   3:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dutch US Stamp Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ji, no gum. how much lower would the corner and perf cause?
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Posted 02/08/2019   4:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 02/08/2019   4:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Probably get an 85, it's clearly to the top. It might have some perf issues at the top which could lower it more.
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Posted 02/08/2019   6:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rismoney to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
revcollector, if it is to the top, it has to be within a few pixels or so. It was scanned at an angle, which is deceiving, but if you turn your head, it looks near dead on balls, in all 4 directions. I'd argue it should be a measure to the bottom inner perf indentations, not the outer. The outer is more subjective based on separation. I'd say it's in the 90s...

Where's SewallH when you need him? ping him on the other thread. :)


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Posted 02/08/2019   6:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


There is 20%+- less margin at the top then the bottom.

(Original image rotated 1.7 degrees to the left and Screen Calipers used to measure)
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Posted 02/08/2019   6:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's well off center, not close to being "only a few pixels".
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Posted 02/08/2019   8:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rismoney to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I stand by low to mid 90s. 20% in a single direction isnt a catastrophic illness warranting a 15pt drop. Is it a 100 gem, no but the margins are still really good, especially horizontal. Agree that there are Perf issues but this shouldn't impact grade, but may deduct from discount level from SCV.
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Posted 02/08/2019   9:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A bunch of graded 95's in the Siegel link below.

The stamp in this thread is not mid 90's. Perhaps a 90 and knocked down from there for other issues. Throw in no gum and whether it would be worth getting graded is debatable.

https://siegelauctions.com/lot_grd....ubmit=Search
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Posted 02/08/2019   10:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps 90? Perhaps 85.
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Posted 02/08/2019   10:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps 85? Perhaps 90.
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Posted 02/08/2019   11:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JLLebbert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would give it the benefit of the doubt on the high side.
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Posted 02/09/2019   12:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I like your style JLL!
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Posted 02/09/2019   12:37 am  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
the total lack of consensus on the grade of ths stamp should be required reading for those that see no value in getting a stamp professionally graded

As for the question of how no gum will affect the value of the stamp, if it were only a VF its value would be about 40-50% of a hinged VF stamp.
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Posted 02/09/2019   03:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dutch US Stamp Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thank you all, great comments while I was a sleep (time difference)

i learned a lot!! I think I will take the gamble and send it in hoping for a 90. of course I will let you all know what came out.

but I see I need to do some reading on the PSE or PF certs first, that might take a while...
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