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Opinions On A Few Early Incl #119

 
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Posted 02/20/2019   2:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Dutch US Stamp Collector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
i have theese set aside as interesting due to centering, jumbo, unused.

would like the opinion of the experts


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Posted 02/20/2019   3:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They make great additions to a collection. If you are asking about grading - I am a collector and just enjoy stamps hence I do not believe in that stuff

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Posted 02/20/2019   3:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice fresh copies with good color.
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Posted 02/21/2019   08:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It may just be the scan (or my eyes) but the 5c at the bottom looks like it could be double paper. Does the stamp feel extra thick when you flick it? Would like to see a closer scan of it. The 15c and 90c are beautiful looking stamps! To me Jumbo is only of greater value when the stamps is perfectly (relatively speaking) centered. Otherwise I classify it as merely poorly perfed.
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Posted 02/21/2019   12:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampman2002 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As Peter stated, they are nice looking stamps and would make a great addition to your collection.

That being said, you have to weigh the cost of certification/grading against the value received.

A jumbo designation will only be given after the initial grade is established.

For example, the Trans-Mississippi issues generally have small margins. This stamp, which has generous margins all around, was not considered jumbo. It was graded XF-S 95 the Philatelic Foundation.





The next one is from the Columbian series and has not been graded yet. I would imagine this to receive an XF-90 or perhaps only a VF-XF 85 when I send it in.





When you are looking for jumbo stamps, you want ones which have balanced margins. If the next stamp had a better impression, I'd send it in and it would get a jumbo designation.




In the Washington Franklin series, the margins are all over the place. Even though the next stamp has large margins, they are not large enough for a jumbo rating.





Here are some other graded WF's to give you an idea of what to look for when considering whether to submit a stamp for grading:





This one was a solid XF-90, but not enough for XF-95 so it garnered an XQ designation, signifying it so.







There two stamps give a pretty good representation of solid XF-90 grades.

In the 4th Bureau issues, the margins are generally much smaller, so the amount of margin required for a jumbo designation isn't as great.

Take a look at the following two stamps. On the 634A, the margins are even but not large enough for jumbo designation.





The final stamp is a jumbo from the Nebraska overprints of 1929. Note the smaller margins needed to gain this designation. Compare these margins against some of the margins on the WF stamps above and you'll see the differences.





Hope this helps.
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Posted 02/21/2019   3:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dutch US Stamp Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
stampman, thank jou so much, great info
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Posted 02/21/2019   8:57 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The final stamp is a jumbo from the Nebraska overprints of 1929. Note the smaller margins needed to gain this designation. Compare these margins against some of the margins on the WF stamps above and you'll see the differences.


I'm glad you pointed this out. There's been a guy who turned up here recently who insists he can grade accurately and then lists crazy grades like 83 XF, and he insists that to get a jumbo the margins have to be at least something like 20% no matter how small normal margins are on a particular issue.
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Posted 02/21/2019   9:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Even given that the margins on K/N are usually somewhat tight, I would not have given this a jumbo. A search of the PF site will show many stamps with similar margins. Jumbos should be hard to find, not easy.
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Posted 02/21/2019   11:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Philazilla to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 15c pictoral looks like it might be something special. It has a slightly short perf, though. The 90c banknote looks very nice too. The others look like very respectibe stamps, if not terribly remarkable.
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Posted 02/22/2019   04:49 am  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The OP's stamps stamps all seem nice but it is difficult to impossible to give good advice without good images of INDIVIDUAL stamps, including the back of the stamp.

No, that does not mean I am asking for seven bleeping, "Should I Get This Graded?", threads.
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Posted 02/22/2019   05:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dutch US Stamp Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
haha I get it sinclair. as soon as I have time I will do the 2 or 3 most likely candidates and post in 1 topic

the 5 cents, 90 cents and the #119, agree??
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Posted 02/22/2019   09:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 90c is nice, and could be worth getting a cert (is it 155 or 166 or 191?), but not for just grading. It's not that great centering - nice stamp - but not a high grade.
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Posted 02/22/2019   10:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In my opinion, none of the stamps in the first post are worth grading. The 15 cent 1869 might have been if it didn't have a short perf.
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