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Comparing Shades Of Australian KGV Heads Sideface Series

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Posted 03/29/2019   10:06 pm  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This forum is for members to upload and comment on scans of groups of various shades of an issue of Australian KGV heads.

Members are encouraged to upload their own shade comparison groupings of this fascinating stamp.

The first group I will start with is the CofA watermark four pence olive issues of 1933-1937.

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Posted 03/30/2019   01:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Penny Red shades available.

Sc#63 in random order.
Still looking for an example of "Russet Brown"
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Posted 03/30/2019   05:59 am  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for posting the browns Rod222, they are certainly an interesting challenge.

The lower two rows look like they are ACSC 84, black-brown shades - do you have a separate page of those?
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Posted 03/30/2019   07:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cannot really help any further FDS,
Here's the thing, I just collected random KG5 sidefaces, for years,as they came in sundry lots.
I have an Album 2" thick of just sidefaces.
I had no interest, until a fellow collector made an acquaintance from the next town over.

He is a Kangaroo and sideface addict, hence my growing interest.

I have 5 pages of the Brown's , most are red brown, this is how I collect them,
the 2d Red and the Penny Green, I would have hundreds if not a 1000.

Never sorted them for shades as yet, only owned the Brusden White for just under a year.
I guess "a work in progress"
(I find this method good for "flyspecking" passing over each stamp in turn)
5 pages of browns.......
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Posted 03/30/2019   07:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Here are my Sc# 118 (with a Sc#73 interloper)
Probably the scan does not show up shades, but looking at them here,
I can see Olive, brown olive, rusty olive and Citron (my verbiage)
I find "shading" dodgy with used stamps, you never know what their history has been.
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Posted 03/30/2019   07:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A work in progress.
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Posted 03/30/2019   07:48 am  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ha! Good luck with those 1d Greens!

The 4d olives look good - shading will seem less dodgy once you start to group them together - I find that there are clear gradations, producing quite distinct and interesting sub-groups, especially after checking them on the scanner after the natural light sorting.
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Posted 03/30/2019   07:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From the internet.
Author : Gutters.
Shades listed Brusden White 4d KG5
Our posted scans involve the last 5 colours..........
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You be the judge of computer screen colours,
this is one of the few "Russet Brown" stamps I could find.
Appears to have a lot of red in the mix, bordering on "claret".

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Posted 03/30/2019   08:33 am  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not perfect from a second-hand scan, but with a bit of rearranging, your 4d olives can be graduated from light green olive through olive then yellow olive and finally a brownish olive.

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Posted 03/30/2019   1:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add itma to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
FairDinkum:

Since you started off with the CrownCofA watermark, I'll do likewise. Here are my 1d Green shades.



Lots more to come.

Frank.
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Posted 03/30/2019   2:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice page Frank !
Gives me something to work with.


Quote:
Not perfect from a second-hand scan, but with a bit of rearranging, your 4d olives can be graduated from light green olive through olive then yellow olive and finally a brownish olive.


You Sir, are a dedicated collector
That is one step beyond / deeper than "flyspecking"
Not sure I would have the patience.
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Posted 03/30/2019   2:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add itma to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod:


Quote:
this is one of the few "Russet Brown" stamps I could find.


Here are my (or rather, my father's) shades for the 1˝d browns. That ebay stamp looks more like my father's interpretation of PURPLE BROWN. But then my eyes leave a lot to be desired these days.

I find that the subtle differences in shades only show themselves when you see them together as a group. I would have thought that the stamp you have shown is a little too purple for russet brown.



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Frank,
kudos to your dad, for such a nice display, I have not seen prior, reference to "types of crown" in the watermark before.
Dad's "Tudor Crown" if his images are correct must follow the corollory of being 2nd Watermark.

I think we need to differentiate colours of these with the printings.
1918-1919 ACSC #83
Black-Brown
Purple Black
Reddish Black
Grey Black

1919-1922 ACSC #85 (colour changed from Black-Brown due to difficulty detecting postmarked stamps)

Deep Red-Brown
Purple Brown
Chocolate
Russet Brown.
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Posted 03/30/2019   3:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A novice attempt.
I have 120 Three halfpenny 2nd Watermark, 16 are Black Brown.
All Black Browns look identical, no colour difference
These are just guesses.
Sc#24
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What a feast for the eyes
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