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Is This A Switzerland 75A?

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Posted 04/23/2019   12:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add NanoPhilatelic to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Is this a Switzerland 75a?

Watermark 182 (Type I)
I am interested to know if this is "Yellow-Orange". I have included the Pantone colors I pulled from Google Images, if that helps.




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Posted 04/23/2019   07:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Can't waste our time with people who come here just so they can confirm a purchase on a misidentified stamp ,are they contacting the buyer to help them or looking to us to help them get a bargin for financial gain . I don't play that way .I am here to help not rip=off or use my collection and research for your financial gain .
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Posted 04/23/2019   07:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NanoPhilatelic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am only a collector, I do not sale. I just love the hunt. I buy whole lots then go through them, if I think I might have something interesting I will ask. I am not a day trader, financial gain is the least of my interest, as stupid as that sounds lol. Collecting stamps is nothing more then a hobby. It does not pay the bills, I am a graphic designer by trade.
I would never in a million years want to part with my stamps. I am sorry if I post a lot. I am a bit obsessive.
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Posted 04/23/2019   08:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NanoPhilatelic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dear floortrader,
I do not want to make anyone mad or anything. I am so grateful for this forum, there is nothing like it. I can assure you stamps are not my day job, it is just something I really enjoy. I have been collecting for the past year and a half now and it has changed my life in such a positive way. Most of my friends and co-workers play video game, I collect stamps. :) I just love stamps.
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Posted 04/23/2019   3:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sorsh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NanoPhilatelic, you seem VERY preoccupied with value.

if you enjoy stamps, as you say, don't be so worried about value. Many of my favorite stamps are worthless but bring me joy and some of my very expensive covers I keep in a shoebox and never look at them. So settle on a area, and acquire a good base and work on it - this should be lots of fun - if you love stamps.

a good advice is to NEVER rely on colors, most stamps in a rare shade has something else to tell them apart - if not, send it to an expert and get a certificate - a picture on here is useless even with your little color thingy. there are many ways the color on a stamp can change over the years.

also keep in mind that 9999 of 10000 times the "rare and valuable" stamp is just a common one.. finding these is extremely rare. I work at an auction house and we buy 100's of boxes and 1000's of collections every year and we find maybe 1 ever 2 years that's worth something out of the ordinary.
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Posted 04/23/2019   4:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well said Sorsh. If I may add something to your third paragraph, a used stamp's color is very unreliable - one never knows what it has been through

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Posted 04/23/2019   4:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To follow-up with what Sorsh is saying...
Start the identification process with the assumption that you have the most common variety. Not only is this true in 99.999% of the time, but it also prevents confirmation bias. Getting caught up thinking that you might have made 'a find' can cause your judgment to be influenced. It is easy to convince yourself that you have made a 'find' only to be disappointed. We hope folks to enjoy the hobby and hate having to tell posters that they should not quit their day jobs!
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Posted 04/23/2019   5:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cherrystone auction stamp.They identify the stamp
as (yellow-orange).
https://www.cherrystoneauctions.com...=SWITZERLAND

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Michael Rogers auction. Here the stamps is identified as yellow.
https://stampauctionnetwork.com/v/v503332.cfm


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But...There are several intermediat colors from yellow too deep yellow; even almost orange
Yours could be deep yellow.(Only the Zumstein cat. will list all)

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Gelborange_____________
https://www.ricardo.ch/de/a/1882-zi...-1003273946/


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Posted 04/28/2019   12:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NanoPhilatelic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Perf12. The first stamp you posted looks close.
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Posted 04/28/2019   08:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add funcitypapa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Agree with all comments made about rarity as well as focus, as a collector, on enjoyment as opposed to monetary aspect of hobby. Having said that, the image shown certainly looks more yellow orange than yellow to me. I would send for a cert.
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Posted 04/28/2019   09:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Let me find the stamps that need to be discussed .
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Edited by floortrader - 04/28/2019 10:50 am
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Posted 04/28/2019   11:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Galeoptix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Florian,

If you do not care about colours or shades as Nano does, so why get into this thread to throw off your frustration???

He simply wanted to know if anyone could say something useful about that shade and apparently nobody here can!

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Posted 04/28/2019   3:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think I know more about the shades on this Swiss stamp ZUMSTEIN 57, 63a and 63Ab than any of the catalog queens and internet experts who only can link pages here ,how the heck can you talk about shades when your taking picture off a computer screen. No one would give you a nickel for their opinion . You got the stamp or you don't got the stamp in front of you


The stamp above is a beige-yellow which I have few of .
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Edited by floortrader - 04/28/2019 3:36 pm
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Posted 04/28/2019   4:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Achtung: translation


Just one small detail: about Zumstein 63Ad

In addition, it is hardly possible to make a "normal" into a "sunset orange", as even any layman could recognize this falsification immediately! Because on the one hand there is the date of use (late 1888-mid-1889), as well as the place of use (exclusively postal district VII, with cancels of Zurich, Winterthur and Aussersihl). As a last, unmistakable feature, all normal 63A appear under the UV lamp BLACK.

The reason for this is the high lead content of the yellow printing ink. This was also the reason for the creation of this rare nuance. The printer experimented independently with "lead-free" colors for the 15 Rp. Value, but he did not find a satisfactory result. These "experiments" are easy to spot as they appear under the BRAUN UV lamp because they lack the lead in the paint. The few 100 pieces of it then he mixed with the normal delivery, probably to avoid rejects.

From France, the printer then learned of the new (cheap) dark purple ink, which he then immediately proposed to the OPD (Ober Post Directorate) as a new color for this value. So that's how the 64A came to be.

ATTENTION! The most common are false pieces from 1886 on the market. At that time, a slightly darker shade, the "orange yellow", was regularly created. Often it is just ignorance of the providers, but these are of a much lighter color than the "yellow-orange". But a few pieces have probably also been dimmed (probably chemically) to fool customers. However, these concoctions are easy to unmask by the above features.

Kind regards
https://www.philaseiten.de/cgi-bin/...x.pl?ST=6819
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Posted 04/28/2019   5:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add funcitypapa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Isn't modesty a marvelous personality trait? Particularly when paired with courtesy.
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Posted 04/30/2019   12:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danko to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is one simple answer to this. If you think that you have a rare and valuable variety, pay the money and get a cert. You can think it's a valuable stamp, you may try to sell it as a valuable stamp, but for everybody else it is NOT a valuable stamp unless it's certified by a proper authority in the area. This is true for probably 99% percent of varieties when regular issue stamp is pretty common. Even if you planning on never selling this stamp, and will label it as valuable variety for your own collection, it will cause a lot of pain to your loved once when you pass away. They will think it is a valuable stamp that worth a lot of money when they'll try to sell it.
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