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Help Identifying Italy 15 Or 15A? I Have Two Color Comparisons.

 
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Posted 04/23/2019   03:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add NanoPhilatelic to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Italy 15 is Red (#ff0000).
Italy 15a is Brown Red (#a52a2a)
I have provided both in the picture below.



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Posted 04/23/2019   05:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Think about your question...you are asking what color the IMAGE you scanned is as it is displayed on MY monitor??? For example, my computer and monitor automatically changes colors after 9PM my time.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...r-night-time so the color I perceive in your images can look differently depending upon the time I view them!

So the responses you get will only answer some questions about your scanning hardware/software and our display hardware/software, but it does not really say much about your stamp.

Stamp color is an area that technology cannot address. Color detection are dependent upon the person eyesight, ambient lighting environment, and time. Even 'color guides' are not reliable a few years after being published since ink and paper chemistry change over time. And there is also zero consistently across color naming conventions. So trying to apply Pantone or catalog color nomenclature is virtually useless. What one refence calls red another might call carmine.

Stamp color study consists of a big reference collection of stamps, a trained color eye, and defined and calibrated ambient lighting conditions.
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Posted 04/23/2019   07:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This looks like the vermillon 40 centesimi.

The Brown-red would look ike this:


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Edited by perf12 - 04/23/2019 07:29 am
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Posted 04/23/2019   07:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I get the sense that someone is shopping the internet for misidentified philatelic material and needs this board to confirm before purchase . I don't play that game .
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Posted 04/23/2019   07:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NanoPhilatelic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am thinking about getting a Pantone Color Cue. Maybe that would work. I can return it within 30 days. Distinguishing colors is kind of difficult for me, because you have to factor in if the stamp is faded or not.
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Posted 04/23/2019   07:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NanoPhilatelic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK, so it is a Scott #15, not a 15a like I was hoping. Perf12, That 15a you posted has a catalog value of 12,500! Pretty wild.
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Posted 04/23/2019   08:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In the real world a Vermillon un-used sells for 50 - 300 euros. Brown -red certified (Diena) un-used: 500-1000 euros. Prices of canceled (Certified stamps)increse considerably..
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perhaps the stamp isn't one Perf12 owns?
perhaps he owns it? and perhaps it has a forged cancel and thus not worth nearly as much?

don't be so hooked up on value.

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Posted 04/23/2019   5:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NanoPhilatelic, save your money and please don't buy the Pantone guide. Each stamp catalog uses different names and "cheats" by using traditional color names and also is not necessarily consistent within itself. Perhaps the best of the lot are the Michel or Stanley Gibbons color guides, but then you need their catalogs to see what they use for color names. And again, even they are not totally consistent.
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