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Posted 04/27/2019   03:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add NanoPhilatelic to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Is this 2mm spacing between "30 and cents."?





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Posted 04/27/2019   05:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You are measuring the wrong thing here. You should be measuring the spacing between the Chinese and roman letters.

Sorry, this is a complete forgery. The original stamp design has mottling typical of a lithograph made using real stone. However rough-looking that is, there is more shading detail in the genuine that on the stamp shown. The lettering is different from yours. The color of the genuine is not what I see here.

The overprint has different characters/typeface from the genuine. The "3" is clearly different as well as the letters in "cents".

See Siegel auction 1152, lots between 1045-1060.
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Edited by hy-brasil - 04/27/2019 05:29 am
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Posted 04/27/2019   07:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Your pics are poor quality.When you want to show spacing do something like this:



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Posted 04/27/2019   09:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NanoPhilatelic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you. Do you think any of these are fake?


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Posted 04/27/2019   10:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For the moment I see the 1st 3 as fake ,wrong forms,curls,pointed forms on the right.They don't fit in any group of printings.
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Posted 04/27/2019   11:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NanoPhilatelic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK, The first 3? The rest look ok? Thank you for your help.
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Posted 04/27/2019   2:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I fear they are all forgeries. The Dowager Empress Issue in dull green lower left with trimmed perfs might be good & the 1897 Large Wide Surcharge on the bright green Dowager;but need a much better photo to confirm.
The 2 last stamps look ok...IMO


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Posted 04/28/2019   12:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NanoPhilatelic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dang, what a bummer.
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Posted 04/30/2019   1:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sorsh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Dang, what a bummer.


NO, that's to be expected, a cheer is in order when you finally find something nice, because it doesn't happen often.

but spend some time with books, learn about your area.
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Posted 04/30/2019   4:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'd suggest you take it as a lesson learned.

It should prove to everyone visiting SCF just how really rare a stamp cataloging (say) $500 and up really is, and how tempting and easy it is for forgers to copy any stamp. It also shows how frequently forgeries show up.
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Posted 04/30/2019   5:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Two lessons that I have learned over the years…

1. Stamps are as common as rocks. I may have a huge pile of rocks but the chances that I might find a gem stone among them is virtually zero.

2. Album weeds (fakes, forgeries) are just like the weeds in my back yard. I never find just one or two and once I find some, I find a lot of them.

Don
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Posted 04/30/2019   7:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NanoPhilatelic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Forgers is China are extremely talented. I am still fooled by this China 84 fake I have. I would never pass it on to someone else without telling them though it came back as a counterfeit from PSE. Par the coarse!
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