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Congo Katanga 8f Overprint, 1960

 
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Posted 05/07/2019   6:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add shermae to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Sorry for the crappy photo but for the purposes of my question it shouldn't matter.

I was cataloging some newly acquired material and noticed this 8F stamp had 2 different overprints. Scott mentions inverted overprints but not ones where the overprint elements are switched top and bottom.

My guess is the same "manufacturers" of the inverts produced these for additional sales/speculation, but does anyone know more? Does this occur on other values?


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Posted 05/07/2019   6:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This may / may not be of help.
(My overpints are all as your left hand side example)
https://goscf.com/t/14176
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Posted 05/07/2019   7:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In the image from the thread you posted, the 4F is of the type on the right-hand side of my photo. One example of this stamp is for sale on Hipstamp, and it is like the one on the left-hand side.
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Posted 05/07/2019   7:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StatesmanStamper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Shermae,

A site I don't seem to be able to reference in my post lists the stamp with Katanga at top as Michel 16II and the one at the bottom as Michel 16I.

Perhaps someone who has a copy of the appropriate catalog can provide confirmation.

Dale
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Posted 05/07/2019   7:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was a tad hasty in response,
all mine are optd standard, ie The Belgian name is barred, with the Katanga opt.
Your examples have two instances to bar, hence the variation.
Your question then remains open.
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Posted 05/08/2019   03:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Johan Buvelot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Shown is part of the OBP(Belgian catalogue). It is a bit older the values therefore are not correct, but do give an indication on value of the 2 overprint types.

First there is the normal overprint, Bar topside, Katanga bottomside. This is the normal series. Yellow dot.

Under the red dot there is an additonal mention of "omgekeerde overprints, this mean"s overprints the other way around meaning Katanga topside and bar bottomside.

I cannot find any reference to inverted overprints in the OBP.

I think it is possible Scott means switched overprints as described above.



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Posted 05/08/2019   03:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vayolene to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think there's an exception among the 6 vertical stamps : On the 2F stamp (Michel # 12) Katanga is upside and bar bottomside.
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Edited by vayolene - 05/08/2019 03:21 am
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Interesting, I likely would not have given it a second look as a loose stamp.
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Posted 05/15/2019   7:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks very much for the insights.
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A site I don't seem to be able to reference in my post lists the stamp with Katanga at top as Michel 16II and the one at the bottom as Michel 16I.

Perhaps someone who has a copy of the appropriate catalog can provide confirmation.


Yes, looking in my Michel Zentralafrika catalogue, these varieties are Katanga #16I (KATANGA on bottom) and #16II (KATANGA on top). They both have the same catalogue value, 2.80 euro mint, 2.50 euro postally used (CTO minimum value).
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