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Posted 05/31/2019   10:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add James Drummond to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Who on earth buys forever stamps at a post office and then immediately sells them on ebay at a huge discount?

Is this a new business model that is taught in schools these days?

I'm old and confused. Befuddled, even. Maybe just old, I don't know.

Or sleepy, maybe?

Jim

https://www.ebay.com/itm/500-Foreve...!91326!US!-1

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Posted 05/31/2019   11:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pnjstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Most probably counterfeit.
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Posted 05/31/2019   11:29 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
counterfeit
or stolen from work
or I've also heard the suggestion tax fraud (expense claimed, sales not reported - but this will only work if the tax bracket is high enough to be larger than the discount offered plus ebay and PayPal fees)
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Posted 06/01/2019   12:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Calstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

How about a dealer who made a legitimate purchase which included these stamps? And now wishes to recoup some of his/her investment.

Unconventional, yes. Illegal, no.

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Posted 06/01/2019   09:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modernstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That is a low price for new stamps.
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Posted 06/01/2019   6:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Offer them $150 and see what happens.

Buying US forever stamps outside a US PO would very much open to the China counterfeit etc How would you know if they were counterfeit or not?
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Posted 06/01/2019   6:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just selling face. Good dealer in jewelry, coins and bullion. Probably picked these up in a large lot. I do.
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Posted 06/01/2019   9:50 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"How about a dealer who made a legitimate purchase which included these stamps? And now wishes to recoup some of his/her investment."

Then the question just moves to "Who on earth buys forever stamps at a post office and then immediately sells to dealer at a huge discount"
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Posted 06/01/2019   10:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Collectors that buy new issues by the truckload and there are quite a few.
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Posted 06/01/2019   10:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I cannot imagine a stamp collector buying massive amounts of "forever" flag stamps.
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Posted 06/01/2019   10:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Imagine it. I end up with copious amounts of postage in rolls, sheets and every other form in large lots. Auction houses frequently have massive amounts of face to sell. Or it could be a Chinese cartel counterfeiting operation which is infinitely more exciting.
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Posted 06/10/2019   11:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The last issue of Linn's Stamp News (June 8, 2019, page 11) features an article about a post office manager in Louisiana. Seems he has a gambling addiction. He stole and sold hundreds of thousands of dollars of stamps on ebay to support his habit.
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Posted 06/10/2019   1:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Calstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Just to keep things in perspective...

The original posting relates to a long-established "brick and mortar"coin, gold, and collectibles dealer located in SoCal. Who also has used ebay as a sales channel for quite some time.
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