Sg 133A Single. Substituted Cliche Of Die II?

I believe this to be Die II stamp of 9d watermarked CofA. SG makes a note of it as substituted cliche. Not a rarity in anyway, as it priced at 100# as a pair with regular stamp Die IIB in my 2006 SG catalog, but a curious stamp I would think.





This seller on HipStamp provides very good description of this type. I guess he/she wouldn't mind free advertisement.

https://www.hipstamp.com/listing/19...94e/22402948

Unfortunately the seller has incorrectly stated that these are difficult to collect as singles. I specialise in the 9d roos and have been collecting these for about 10 years. I have 9 or 10 singles of this cliche but only one double (with two substituted cliches). I think most of my other substituted cliches would follow this pattern.

It is however difficult to find top quality substituted cliches as these stamps were used in the main on parcels.

SG is not a good pricing model as all their prices are based on their own retail prices - not necesarily recent market movements.

Regards
Frank

I've also picked up a few of these over the years. These two are both substituted by 2R33 - shading line breaks below INE and E's of Pence. A little difficult to figure out if ACSC 29(4)ha or 29(4)na. Both have much to be desired.

Pardon my uneducated question, but it looks like there were more than 1 substitution of Die II cliches. Does anyone know how many total there were. I guess we are going deep into plating, which is way above my head.

langtounlad

Pricing discrepancies between catalog and market values, are likely true for any catalog, not just SG. SG probably the most biased, as it has its own stamp selling platform, and tend to overprice for their own benefit IMHO.

Partime

Easy to identify in this case. Note in your fist scan the bulging left frame off the lower west coast of WA and in the same area of your second scan the left frame is thinned almost to the bottom. This tells you it is 4R7 or na as it is known for damage and repair to that frame. Also there is a notch in the outer right frame level with the first and second shade lines above Tasmania. Banwell & Parsons say the notch may not always be there but I have not seen one without yet.
The repair to the left frame comes in a number of states and I have three states but I know of at least two more.

There are a number of identifying features in other substituted cliches but as I hope to start soon on a paper on identifying individual cliches I prefer to keep these to myself for the time being.

Danko

Not uneducated - just in a chapter you have not yet read!

There were 7 substituted cliches derived from 5 Die 2 cliches. The current ACSC mentions the discovery of an eighth substitute but the cliche mentioned is a well known Die 2B flaw and so is impossible. The 5 original cliches are 2R26 & 27 and 2R32 & 33 and one unknown. The substituted cliches are 4L3 & 4 and 4L9 & 10, 4L48, 4R7 and 4R49(the one with the unknown origin).

Everyone

Sorry for the rambling disjointed explanation but have just returned from a funeral which involved 6 hours driving. Brain still functioning at 100kph.

Regards
Frank