Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Thousands of stamps, consistently graded, competitively priced and hundreds of in-depth blog posts to read








Stamp Community Forum
 
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

US #301 - Attempt At 301c Booklet?

 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 6 / Views: 908Next Topic  
Valued Member

302 Posts
Posted 07/12/2019   10:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Hobsun013 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

All,

This one has been hanging out in my stack of "to research". I may be over thinking this one but could this be a 301 top margin pair along with several others stamps cobbled together to represent a 301c booklet. (lot of effort if that is the case) Perfs are all over the place and the stamps are all hinged together on the reverse with clear separations also appears re-gummed. Obviously low value but interested in thoughts from others. I don't collect booklets so this one has just be laying around and I thought I would learn something.






Thanks for any thoughts.

Hobsun
Send note to Staff

Pillar Of The Community
Learn More...
United States
537 Posts
Posted 07/12/2019   11:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rhett to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just get a known 301 sheet stamp and compare the design sizes. Booklet singles of this era have designs that are slightly shorter and wider than that of their sheet counterparts. FWIW, this pane looks legit to me.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
6328 Posts
Posted 07/12/2019   11:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As Rhett notes the dimensional difference ... it is due to the 90 degree turning of the paper in going through the press for sheet vs booklet printing in this era. The paper is dampened for printing, afterwards the paper fibers shrink differently with the grain vs cross-grain when the damp printed paper is dried. Besides comparing height/width against a known 301 sheet stamp, the watermark direction will be turned 90 degrees. There appears to be a sideways letter on the 3rd stamp when looking at the back side. A scan in fluid would be revealing. Looks like legit booklet pane to me also.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
302 Posts
Posted 07/13/2019   12:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hobsun013 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Many thanks to both of you.

The watermark is definitely sideways (that one was easy to check and nice to learn, likely should have seen that nugget of information somewhere before now but as noted not a booklet person thus far). The stamps also measure just a tad wider so this looks like a legit 301c. Unfortunate corner cut and lots of hinges covering all connections but no money in it and learned something.

I now see in Scott the notification that the Wmk is vertical. All the more reason to read things carefully especially in areas that are outside what one normally looks at.

Thanks again.
Hobsun
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by Hobsun013 - 07/13/2019 12:18 am
Pillar Of The Community
3859 Posts
Posted 07/13/2019   10:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One can notice remnants of some perforation holes on the vertical sides. This could be evidence of perforations being trimmed to make imperforate sides.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
302 Posts
Posted 07/13/2019   1:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hobsun013 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Jogil,

I noticed those as well and this started me down the path of questioning the overall item in the first place. The sideways WM and the measurements noted above pushed me towards these being legit 301c stamps vs standard 301. That being the case the 301c stamps would have not perfs on the sides to trim. Even the photo of the 301c booklet as shown in the Scott catalog has edges which are not clean and could lead one to think they were trimmed to some degree. The actual perf separations and the hinges rejoining them concerned me more in terms of piece-mealing a full pane of 301c stamps. In the end my current thoughts are that this is legit 301c all be it in bad condition.

Thanks
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
12330 Posts
Posted 07/13/2019   1:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
...that this is legit 301c all be it in bad condition.


Don
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
  Previous TopicReplies: 6 / Views: 908Next Topic  
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.

Go to Top of Page

Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2007 - 2026 Stamp Community Forums
It took 0.16 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05