Scott 192i - How To See If It Is "Broken E" With Cancel Covering It.

The Scott 192 King George V has a variety called "Broken E" known as Scott 192i...If you have a suspected Scott 192i, but a cancel is covering it, there is a way to verify whether or not it is the variety....I took a couple of my blocks and posted one below (position 87).



Now I used software to put a fictitious cancel over 2 stamps..Can you tell which one is the Scott 192i, left or right one..?



If the 'E" is hidden by a cancel but you can still see the rest of the letters of the word "postage" then there is a way to know if it is a true Scott 192i or not. There is a constant "dot" on the letter "G" on all Scott 192i stamps...See picture below and if you see it, you can be sure it is a true Scott 192i variety...See blow ups of "postage".



Just for your information
Robert

Robert, this is excellent information. Thanks for sharing. I checked my 3 copies and they all show the G dot

Robert, I agree with Gilles le timbre and my example (middle stamp in a block of nine) also has the dot in the "G".

I also see that the "A" above the "G" in the left stamp of your bottom examples is split 1/3 of the way down, which I haven't seen before.

This is a very interesting discussion. However, if the catalog only mentions the Broken E, then I would not be interested in purchasing a copy that only showed the "dot in G". Meaning that if someone offered me a copy which they called 192i, but they then explained that it is underneath the cancel and I couldn't see it, then I would not be interested in paying anything close to the catalog value of a 192i.

What may help give value to this finding is if the catalog were updated to state something like, "Broken E with corresponding Dot in G".

Has anyone confirmed that the Dot in G is only found in conjunction with the Broken E? Perhaps it is an early or late state of the fault? Some more research would be needed on full sheets, I would assume.

It should also be noted that the Unitrade 2014 catalog that I own clearly shows the Dot in the G in their illustration of 192i.

Hey Partime

Well a few guys say their "broken E" have the "G" dot as I said...I would like a couple more people confer
the same association..I do not think it is appropriate for Unitrade to place a association with the "broken E" and the "dot in the G", cause probably almost every constant variety would have an associated variety to...That would mean adding to many, many, many varieties."

All I was trying to do is educate collectors that even if a cancel is covering a possible "broken E" variety, there is a way to verify the variety.

Robert

The top stamp is my cancelled 192i, with the dot in G.

The bottom stamp appears to a different type of the broken E. Has any one seen this one before; or is it a fake?


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Now this is getting really interesting!

I agree with No1philatelist. This could possibly be an early form of the broken 2 ?

Peter

Sorry!

I just realised that my bottom stamp is not a 192. It is rather a 197c from the Medallion issue.

I still woul like to know if any one has seen this mark before.

Hi Major1044



Your 197c Die II is a little over inked..I think what you have there is what I used to call in the printing world as a "tail"...Tacky ink caused this oddity..I have 7 of these and not one looks like yours.

Robert