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Posted 10/28/2019   1:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add sopotsopot to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
How do you rate the centering of these stamps? Are they VF?

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Posted 10/28/2019   1:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add canyoneer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
IMO these are better than VF. More like XF. Be ready for a lot of varied opinions!
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Posted 10/28/2019   1:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'd have no issue over someone listing them as XF.
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Posted 10/28/2019   1:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If I would collect these I'd be proud to have them in my album. I agree with canyoneer

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Posted 10/28/2019   2:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
XF for the 524 and VF-XF for the 116 since it is centered to the left.
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Posted 10/28/2019   2:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, I'll bite and give a different opinion. On bi-color stamps like this $5 Franklin, centering should be based on two factors: the centering of the frame within the perforated margins AND the registration of the vignette within the frame. While the frame is well-centered, the rightward shift of the vignette detracts.
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Posted 10/28/2019   2:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rgstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
95 for 5$ Very nice!! Beg for a 98
85-90 for 10c
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Posted 10/28/2019   3:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The $5 stamp is twisted clockwise so very very slightly, it is hard to see until you measure it with a screen ruler.

BUT..Nicely centered stamp my friend.
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Posted 10/28/2019   8:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Philazilla to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bicolors are not graded by the positioning of the vignette. You have to decide for yourself if you like where the vignette sits.

These are both XF centering in my view.
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Posted 10/29/2019   01:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sopotsopot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much for all comments
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Posted 10/29/2019   05:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
On bi-color stamps like this $5 Franklin, centering should be based on two factors: the centering of the frame within the perforated margins AND the registration of the vignette within the frame.


Interesting, not considered that before.
So do "Grading" and "Centreing" go hand in hand in US philately?
Sounds plausible to me.

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Posted 10/29/2019   07:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Centering is part of the grade.
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Posted 11/01/2019   2:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mootermutt987 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I REALLY like the $5 - if it were mine, I would send it for a graded cert and NOT be surprised if it came back as a 98. A lot of people on this forum frown upon grading stamps, and I GET their rationales, but I've played that game (see a pretty stamp, spotting the potential of a high grade, and scarfing it up) a number of times and have been, mostly anyway, very happy with the results. I have a few very focused interests in philately, by issue, cancel, etc, but one field that I 'dabble' in is the buy-a-pretty-stamp-and-get-it-graded 'game'. I'd give your stamp a 75/25 chance of being graded as a 98. Of course, it has to be sound otherwise. PSE website lists this stamp at $375 in 98 used - you could realistically get about half that, or a bit more at auction. If you are not a graded-stamp fan, this would look AWESOME in your album!!
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Posted 11/03/2019   01:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sopotsopot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much for all comments and suggestions. I will gladly try to send a stamp to grading. Do you think it is worth sending only $ 5 or maybe 10c as well? I've never done it and I don't know how it works from Poland, but I'll try to find out.
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Posted 11/03/2019   01:53 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In terms of spending money, bear in mind that grading is not a practice followed by European collectors.
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Posted 11/04/2019   2:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Newby Stamper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
IMHO I'd say the $5 is prob superb and the 10c is XF. Either way a couple of nice stamps indeed my friend
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