Assumed To Be A Scott 11

I have had this stamp for probably 40 years in my original album as a Scott 11, and as of late years, a Type I. But I have been reading through the many threads in the forum on Scott 10/10As versus 11/11As. Now it has got me wondering, if I am correct that it is an 11?

I also have read some other links on plating these issues and at this point I've got a lot to learm.

If this is an 11, what is the main indicator in this particular case? Any opinions?

The scan is 600ppi. Thinking I should have done 1200ppi, but away from home the next week.

Thanks,

Ken

With the 3c stamp, it frequently is not as simple as it seems. The very small bit of recutting of the upper part of the inner line at left, precludes the stamp from being a Type I. Plates 4, 6, 7, and 8 are instantly eliminated.
The lack of an inner line at right further eliminates several plates, namely Plates 0, 1L, 2E, 2L, and 3. We are left with Plates 1E, 1i, 5E, and 5L. I don't recall a single position from Plate 5, either state, that has such a small amount of inner line recutting. So, we are quite certain that we can call this a Type II, from Plate 1E or 1i. Considering the color and impression, my money is on it being from Plate 1E, probably right pane. I'm not sure if that will be detailed enough for rmatossian, but I do have a busy life beyond providing free expert advice.

A Type II from Plate 1E or 1i means that it is a Scott #10A.

The color looks like a 10A too.

I'm glad I asking because it looks like I even botched the type I thought it was.

Sinclair2010 -Thanks for the comments. They help me learn about the recutting. I was slow to realize how subtle all this is. I already went looking for a copy of Caroll Chase's book, and found some links to help. I'm away from home for the next week, but going to rescan at higher resolution when I get back to look closer. Also to re-examine the color. I did the scan on an Epson V850 which is calibrated, and thought the color was close, but will check it again.

but I do have a busy life beyond providing free expert advice.
WOW!! Did anyone hold a gun to your head and forced you to reply to post??

Kevin! You're back! Can't say that I missed you. My comment has nothing to do with this thread but rather the way a post of mine was characterised in another thread. I don't mind giving free advice though, you know that, since I helped you on July 6 of this year... incredible.

Well, there is one thing you left out...

Winston, any amount of detail above and beyond zero is greatly appreciated. I'm sure I don't speak for myself when saying thank you for all the hard work you do here at SCF.

Thanks. If I misinterpreted your post, I apologize. Yes, I could have gone further. For example, there is only one Scott #11 position out of 800 that has recutting in the upper right diamond block such as in this stamp. This stamp is not that one position from Plate 6, position 66R6.

I am not the least put off by the "busy life" comment at all! The only reason I have time to be on the forum is I started a week's vacation to visit family. I know the busy part for sure. Printed word always looks sharper than verbally, anyway.

But I gotta to say this forum is probably the best mix of knowledgable collectors I have been able to find since becoming active again in the hobby. I'm glad to have found it.

Thanks all,

Ken

sinclair2010 Winston....YES...you did.
And I am/was appreciative.

I have followed the discussion and am pleased to see the posts. I have some of these stamps and would like to learn more about them. I think I have copied a picture of two of the stamps and would appreciate comments on them. This is my first try in posting here and I hope the picture posts properly. thank you,

#11A on the left - interesting variety from plate 3, 9th column, left pane (maybe 49L3) - no frame line on right and extra frame line on left. #11 on the right. Shades are hard to tell but it looks like the 11A is Dull Red and the 11 is Brownish Carmine.

*corrected "9th row" to "9th column"

Chipshot,



I'll second Philazilla's identification of Scott numbers.

Your image is pretty good, but a larger image would be more helpful in confirming the plating of the left stamp to a specific position on the printing plate, as Philazilla has offered. Also, rotating the image to a vertical orientation is helpful.

Although it is impossible to confirm with an image, the stamp on the right could be a deep claret color.

I'll add that the #11 is a Plate 4 stamp and, yeah, either a very deep '56 brownish carmine, or more likely, a deep claret. There are pesky in-between shades too.

The first thing you should learn is that there is a lot of information on covers. If you have an entire cover, show it, one item per image. Right side up would be good too :)

Thank you all for the welcome and considerate responses to my first post. Taking your suggestion I believe I have some improved images to add to the discussion. I need a little more practice and adding on in this thread will help me to learn the process and about the stamps both. Thanks again!