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Old Curiosities From Sweden ?

 
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Posted 11/03/2019   2:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add sopotsopot to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I found some curiosities on old Swedish stamps. Is this just poor print quality or something more interesting?






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Posted 11/03/2019   2:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Most of it is poor print quality, the last picture shows a fancy way of removing a stamp from pane

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The only one I find interesting is the 12 ORE.It has the bent frame left of the A.
That is found in Plate 5,position 75. Sheet disposition below.(4 quadrants).



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Posted 11/03/2019   5:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Richard Frajola to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just today finished my page of Sweden Sperati forgeries on my new dedicated Sperati site. For some REAL curiosities, see page here:

https://www.sperati.org/Sweden/Sweden.htm
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The whitish cap above the 4 can be found in the genuine 24 skilling also.There is a small vertical line parallel to the right side of the upper right 4 which is also found in the
genuine 1857 24 skilling printings and the 24 skilling reprints.[Orange red "brick red" with dense bottom print (Facit-No 5c)]
Sperati used the photo lithographic technique.That is why the same genuine characteristics can be found in his reproductions.What betrays the reproductions are the color shade and paper type that are not conform for a given printing.Some characteristics can be found only in the 1868 reprints.So imagine if he used the cliché of a 1868 reprint on a genuine 1857 cancel?
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Posted 11/17/2019   5:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sopotsopot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Thank you very much for all the information
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I'd be interested in an explanation on the last stamp.
The difference between the gaps in the lower perforating pins is large.
I feel there must be a reason for this?
Seen, if I recall in DANZIG stamps?
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In the Facit catalog they talk about the difference between comb and harrow perforations, and show pretty much exactly that as the indicator. With harrow perforations the four corners are identical, with comb you get a wider or short gap between perforation holes at two corners.
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Posted 11/21/2019   12:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sopotsopot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In stamps Danzig looks similar, but different. They were stamps in rolls.


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@ ROD222


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I'd be interested in an explanation on the last stamp.
The difference between the gaps in the lower perforating pins is large.
I feel there must be a reason for this?
Seen, if I recall in DANZIG stamps?


read this post

https://goscf.com/t/50665

it's a "tall" stamp, happens when the gear that moves the perforation needles down over the sheet move's a little too far, short stamps exist as well.

@ Peter


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Most of it is poor print quality, the last picture shows a fancy way of removing a stamp from pane


only partially correct, the white dots are acid damage or cleaning damage done to the clichés. Some paint in this era of time had acidic elements which eat away at the clichés. But they are somewhat consistent and you can actually track the development of these dots if you have a lot of this issue.

And the last stamp is a perforation error. I have several examples of this occurrence in danish stamps from the same time period.

the Danzig one could also be a victim of broken perforation needles, it looks like a comb perforation, if it is, then the horizontal rows are identical (which they are) but this stamp is clearly cut out with scissors so i'm not completely sure on that.
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