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1852 President Louis Napoléon - Inscription: "Repub Franc"?

 
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Posted 11/22/2019   7:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Bailey500 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I need help positively identifying this stamp. Along with condition and possible value. Thank you.

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Posted 11/22/2019   8:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This reads "EMPIRE". There are two types of this, depending on whether the hairline(s) indicated are two close lines often merging into one, or two clearly separated lines. The upper neck is more heavily shaded in the second also. This is the first type, so Scott 14, Yvert 13.


Grade is average. This has a strong stain spot showing through to the back. There may be some thin specks on the back. The type and any problems are hard to tell because your image is out of focus. This is then worth about a dollar or two.


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Posted 11/22/2019   8:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure about condition or value, but that's no 1852 stamp. It reads Empire Franc at the top, not Republic. It's 1853 to 1860 depending on the die. Difficult to tell from your scan.

edit: hy-brasil beat me to it
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Posted 11/22/2019   8:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe the OP mixed up two posts

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Posted 11/22/2019   8:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add waddsbadds to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The title of this topic: "1852 President Louis Napoleon -Inscription "Repub Franc" is incorrect in nearly every aspect. It is almost certainly France Scott #14, 10 centimes bister on yellowish paper, but because it is inscribed "Empire Franc." and not Repub Franc. it is the later design, and consequently valued at far less than if it were Scott #10. There are variants in the color, and in the Die which means you probably will need to get out a magnifying glass and see which Die it is, but even the most valuable variant is still only valued at $25 at the best of times, and this one is trimmed pretty close at the northeast corner and so wouldn't fetch much. By a coincidence I'm reading a book at the moment, Finding Fontainebleau by Thad Carhart, and in it there is a chapter which talks about Napoleon III, and how, shortly after getting elected President of the Second Republic, he dissolved the Assembly and declared himself Emperor, which is why they changed the inscription at the top of the stamp some time between the design of the earlier stamp in 1852 and the later one in 1853
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Posted 11/22/2019   9:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bailey500 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like I did mix up the pictures. Let me try again. Thank you for your patience and understanding.



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Posted 11/22/2019   9:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Again, a type I from the characteristics pointed out above. It is on bluish paper. This looks to be the dark blue shade, so Scott 15a with a small premium for that. This would grade as fine-average. It has a major crease, obviously, so minimal value. This is not an expensive stamp to start with.

Hinges: soak them off the stamps in cool (not hot or warm) water; a half hour should usually be plenty. You can dry stamps between newspaper sheets or old telephone books plus there are drying books made up of sheets of blotter paper that work really well. Flatten all with a board with weight on top.
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Posted 11/22/2019   9:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bailey500 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great. Thank you very much.
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Posted 11/23/2019   07:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wkusau to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
bailey500 - you can also edit the title of the post to a more accurate one.
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