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Posted 11/24/2019   11:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add 91stang to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Nice to look at but all fakes-


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Posted 11/24/2019   12:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sopotsopot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In fact, these are not postage stamps, only cinderellas
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Posted 11/24/2019   1:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They are bogus stamps, meant to make money off of collectors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posta...uth_Moluccas


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Posted 11/24/2019   3:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danko to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These are not fakes or bogus. Republic of South Maluku still fighting for independence from Indonesia. Up until know they were unsuccessful, that is why their stamps remain as cinderellas. I assume these were printed by the government in exile trying to raise some money.
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Posted 11/24/2019   4:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These are bogus in generally accepted terms. Items produced for publicity/propaganda purposes only are not automatically postage stamps, which are used for prepaying mail. Show me a postally used South Moluccas cover and not an FDC. Katanga stamps passed through international mails and count as genuine stamps in my book. Even the "sand dunes" stamps (aside from the flood of later CTO-only stuff) and Bhutan stamps were postally used and count as genuine.

By calling it a cinderella, by definition, you yourself take these out of the realm of genuine postage stamps.
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Posted 11/24/2019   5:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danko to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hy-brasil

I just don't like the word bogus to be used for cinderellas. You are absolutely right, these are not postage stamps, this is why we call them cinderellas. They may fit the definition of bogus, what ever that is, but then, all cinderellas, Christmas Seals, and other non postage material can be called bogus. And they are absolutely not fakes.
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Posted 11/24/2019   6:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Old news.
"Search" can be your friend
https://goscf.com/t/52853
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Posted 11/24/2019   11:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danko to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Let me throw this question here. Indonesia stamps from 1948-1949. From my understanding they were never used for postage, probably because they were still under Dutch rule, and those stamps I assume were illegal. However, since Indonesia became independent from the Dutch in 1949, these stamps are listed in catalog as POSTAGE stamps. But, if it took anothr 10-20 years for Indonesia to become independent, then these stamps would be considered bogus stamps?

Anyhow, after reading some additional material, I believe that stamps in original post are the work of a private dealer who has nothing to do with South Maluku] government in exile. I'm pretty sure he pissed off Indonesian officials by printing them.

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