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Stamp Hinge Brands And Quality

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Posted 12/16/2019   5:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Notwithstanding silly customers, that tends to support the information we have had here Bob Randy. Thanks for your efforts.
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Posted 12/16/2019   8:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheArtfulHinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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packets full of curled, scrunched hinges

This can be a feature, rather than a bug. To get curled-up hinges to be usable, I find the best way is to crease them at least once perpendicular to the fold that's been pre-folded during manufacturing (i.e. the long way). I've since found if you crease them this way in a couple different places, it has the net effect of making less of the hinge's surface area adhere to the stamp and the album page, making them more easily removable. Do this trick along with using a bare minimum of moisture and the net result can be about as easily removable as a Dennison. Tough to do that consistently, though.
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Posted 12/17/2019   11:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Could the lack of quality control be the reason people think there are differences if theya re all the same as some have said?
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Posted 12/17/2019   11:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jkelley01938 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I use Dennison's for the good stuff and Prinz for all others. Works for me.

Jack Kelley
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Posted 12/17/2019   12:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have always thought about the possibility of quality control factor and the purchase of new old stock to confuse the issue.

No answer from Prinz UK so far. Still cannot contact Prinz Germany.


Breaking News. DAVO responded to my follow up question. They gave me an answer that requires clarification. However, they are not the manufacturer of DAVO hinges but I requested more info/clarification.

Another response from DAVO with a name of who "makes" their hinges. So more questions. Made by? Manufactured by?
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Posted 12/17/2019   1:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Every new stamp hinge on the market today is manufactured by Prinz without exception.
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Posted 12/17/2019   2:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Still waiting for more clarification from DAVO.

However, DAVO states that their hinges/mounts are "made" by Renate Beck of Germany. Are they the manufacturer or supplier? I cannot find anything about Renate Beck and stamping supplies.

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Posted 12/17/2019   6:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bibliography: Stamp Hinges


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Posted 12/19/2019   01:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
After many years I am showing one of my sources as to the sole manufacturer of stamp hinges "Prinz" located in Germany. Prinz manufactures the hinges and packages the various brands sold throughout the world. Prinz has assured me many, many times the hinges are all the same.

https://www.mysticstamp.com/Product...s/LS120/USA/
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Posted 12/20/2019   07:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Breaking down an album page today,
Hinges # 2,4,5 and 10 must have been Dennison, lifted as lightly, as a maiden's kiss.
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Posted 12/20/2019   09:41 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod - most hinges of a certain vintage would do so. If you find old Rapkin or SG hinges, they'll have the same characteristics - without any unsavoury greenness, of course.
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Posted 12/20/2019   8:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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If you find old Rapkin or SG hinges, they'll have the same characteristics


Well that may answer the whopper hinge, Geoff,
but if what you say is true, why do we not see collectors employing SG Hinges, and broadcasting their ease of use?
Why did SG stop making them? ( given that the Prinz are the only ones now manufactured)
Why has no one used the SG or Rapkin recipe?

A good hinge is going to make someone wealthy, I find this whole topic puzzling.

I saw a tin of Rapkins for around $29 the other day, if memory serves, yet they looked yellow (paper deterioration).

Also if Dennisons were that good, one wonders why they didn't Wmk their calendered paper (Glassine)

Tin is genuine..the hinges?
How did they ever manage to "gift wrap" each bundle of hinges?



"Unsavoury Greeness"
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Posted 12/20/2019   8:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

For any new stamp collectors reading this.....
How NOT ! to use a hinge.

Attaching a hinge near the perforations, is a sure way damage a postage stamp.
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Posted 12/20/2019   8:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stanley Gibbons Hinges made in Western Germany
"Embossed paper" ? hints at ease of removal.

Current price for 1 square meter of Glassine paper is $4.48 AUD

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Posted 12/20/2019   9:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dlambert1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This will not help with the quality of the hinges available today, but may be interesting history/background. I used to work for Dennison and actually presided over the last manufacture of hinge stock some forty (40) years ago. I had recently transferred to that department and the order came down for a last run of hinge stock. Why it was to be the last run was above my pay grade.

No hinge stock had been made for several years and the two gummers that applied the adhesive to the glassine had fallen into serious disrepair. One was completely non-functional and the other had to be jury-rigged to have it last long enough to coat two master rolls 52 inches wide, 36 inches in diameter with a 6 inch core.

We also had trouble finding a machine operator; out of 200 employees in the department I found only one who had had any experience on the gummers.

We coated the glassine rolls then they were transferred to another department for die cutting and packaging. After coating the two rolls, the gummers were dismantled and scrapped.

The quality of Dennison hinges was due to the adhesive formula and I wish I had been prescient enough at the time to have copied it down and put it in my pocket.

I don't remember the source/manufacturer of the glassine.

Dennison itself was sold a year or two later and much was lost.

Regards,
Donald
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