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Scott 482 Or 532, 534 Shermack Type, Vending Machine

 
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Posted 12/17/2019   5:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stamphunter1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Is the left stamp a common type 1 or type 1a in design ribbon, toga button? the right stamp looks like a scott 384 with private schermack perforation.
what colour you think have the left stamp: carmine, rose, deep rose? Did the perforations look as type 3 shermack?
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The stamp on the right says "TWO CENTS" at the bottom. It will be 344 or 384 depending on the watermark.

The stamp on the left says "2 CENTS 2" at the bottom. It is a type I. It will be 409 or 482 depending on watermark.

Yes, both have Schermack type III perforations.
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Posted 12/17/2019   6:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamphunter1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
yep I saw that after alredy posted. right is 344 or 384.
The left could it be a deep rose 482a type 1?
Or it's only a rumble if wishes were fishes...
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Edited by stamphunter1 - 12/17/2019 6:06 pm
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482A. No. (which is a type IA, which has engraving differences)
Stamp ID by the engraving first, which is a type I. 482 will vary some in color, and even if deep rose will never turn it into a 482A.
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Edited by John Becker - 12/17/2019 6:12 pm
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Posted 12/17/2019   6:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamphunter1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
John Becker can you specify the engraving differences from the IA?
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The engraving differences are illustrated in the Scott US Specialized Catalog among other places. I don't location or time to do more at this time.
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Posted 12/17/2019   7:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamphunter1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I understand this.
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Posted 12/18/2019   7:19 pm  Show Profile Check 3193zd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 3193zd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
here is a link to help you determine easily
http://www.stampsmarter.com/learnin...me_USID.html
look under washington identifier.
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The Type Ia information on stampsmarter.com is at

http://stampsmarter.com/1847usa/was...cType1a.html

However, the description of the left and right ribbons is incomplete and possibly misleading to anyone with a 10 or 15 power magnifier. The type I die was used to make experimental 5 and 10 subject transfer rollers in the hope of speeding up the plate making process. There are no engraving differences, but differences in line strength and partial second lines in the ribbon ends are believed to be related to the higher pressure used to enter subjects on the plate from the experimental transfer rollers. Some impressions on plate 10208 were unsatisfactory and two were re-entered from a regular transfer roller leaving 98 type Ia stamps and 2 type I stamps on the plate. This is one compelling reason for not relying on the color to identify type Ia. The other is that two normal 499 plates would have been on the press with plates 10208 and 10209.
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I wish I had a Dollar for everyone that thought they might have a 482a.

Then I could actually afford one. lol
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Posted 12/19/2019   5:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamphunter1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I wish I had a Dollar for everyone that thought they might have a 482a.

Then I could actually afford one. lol


What's your problem exactly? I never said that I have a 482A. The stamp in question was intendet for purchase. And I received only the picture of it that I sent here. So very difficult to determine if it could be a 482A or also some other interesting daviation of this issues.
I never delved into the matter of this particular Washington stamps with type 1, 1A, 2 and also not schermack. so understand that not everyone has the knowledge abouth it like you. Honestly I don't much like these stamps.
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