New Zealand Two Pence 2d Chalon Head Suspected Hansberg Reprints

Is anyone familiar with these "proofs"? Apparently they were reprinted in 1905 or 1906 for someone named Hansberg. He was writing a book that was never published but managed to get New Zealand to print a large number of "proof" Chalon Heads in black 2d. The "proofs" were sold to the Globe Stamp Co. in London and many of those eventually went to someone called Bela Sekula in Hungary ~ who sold them off to collectors.

Assuming these are 1905 Hansberg, are they still really considered Proofs or should I call them reprints? I hesitate to call them forgeries because they did (hopefully) at least come from the original plate.

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Hey priceknight.
I have just managed to secure a set from the 1906 Hausberg 'reprints'.

You are quite right with the setting being Mr Hausberg ordered them Im not qualified to tell you whether you have one of the extremely rare 2d perkins and bacons proof with no watermark, but here's a link that might help.

http://www.andrewsnzstamps.com/proo...nd-souvenirs

This will get your wheels turning!
https://stampauctionnetwork.com/f/f1101.cfm


Im sure some of the other wiser members will advise you further! but until then here is my set. A not so rare 2d hausberg 'reprint
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Another on thick card with some writing on the back which I'm hoping will end up being an indication of things to come however whilst I'm not holding my breath.. will see once it's expertised.

I have the book, a fairly thin volume called (IIRC) The Stamps of New Zealand. There is a plate bound in with a large block of these. Unfortunately most copies of the book have had that page cut out and broken into smaller blocks and singles. I believe they were printed specifically for the book from original plates. Note this is not The Postage Stamps of New Zealand, which is a much heavier tome, and several volumes now.

Billsey,
is it possible to see a pic of the page in the book please. I am rummaging around nz looking for it! and about to purchase another large block. I wonder if its from this book?

I'm afraid it's in a box in my upstairs bedroom, and I haven't been able to get up there to sort through them since the car accident two years ago. :(

billsey..
I hope you are on the mend? it's all goodness. I'm an impulse buyer. If I like it I try to buy it. So waiting for confirmation of sale and then I'l put a pic up. we can compare another day. I hope you will have a better evening.. I do know the long road to recovery myself.

Priceknight
Iv since found this out. The Chalon book, for which the 1906 reprints that Hausburg had ordered, was never completed. So according to this page ...
http://www.nzstamps.org.uk/chalon/r...t/index.html

Some were printed onto card and some onto white wove paper. What started off as a simple enough purchase is now getting down to some nuts and bolts.
and then theres this
https://www.stampboards.com/viewtop...?f=10&t=3888

Now it appears there is a 1913 Jollife reprint. According to my fairly knowledgeable source this is what your book reprints may be billsey. Also please note a lesser distribution of print

Soo I have no idea what I have and I am hoping someone with a lot more experience and knowledge can sit me down and discuss this. Am emailing people as I go so will let you know what I find out. And please vice versa?

cheers

Sure looks like you are correct lostandfound, my book has the Jollife reprint and the rest I have are likely Hausburg.

well done billsey as they are more scarce!iv just purchased thisL should arrive in a week or so.

NZ Chalons Full Face Queens 2d Hausberg Reprints on card 1906, blk 24 cnr selv, left hand corner, key blk, retouched portion of sheet



Am very happy to have it and am loving the whole proof reprint business. a sideline collection starting?!

Here's another block on thick card. I bought this in Montreal in the 1970s.



What would be a reasonable price for this?

May be of interest to you Hausberg enthusiasts

https://www.warwickandwarwick.com/a...logue/242748

Well I'm sure that the estimate of GBP40 for that a block of 7x12 is going to disappoint. I don't see a date on the auction site's page. Is this an upcoming or past auction? It will be interesting to see what price it realizes.

thank you for the link!

I love them.

And definitely not disappointing to me.. quite the reverse!

i paid $80nz for half that? is that shocking? if you love something and you can pay for it! why not I say!

cheers
kristan

It's the forthcoming sale for 6 May - no viewing, absentee bids only in the present circs!

Geoff, thanks for the reply.

Lost and found, unfortunately I find myself on the other end of the buy/sell spectrum. Being of a somewhat advanced age and with no one with enough interest to pass my collection on to when I go to the big philatelic bureau in the sky, I would prefer to sell my stamps myself rather than leave it to my wife or executor, neither of whom have any experience in the field. Currently I'm doing an inventory of my rather unruly collection.