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British South Africa Company Perfin Question

 
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Posted 02/04/2020   3:06 pm  Show Profile Check docgfd's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add docgfd to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Would anyone happen to know what the '811' perfin on this £10 British South Africa Company stamp stands for? I'm assuming this is a revenue stamp, so is it a cancel?

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Posted 02/04/2020   3:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wannahocalugie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a key, neat! Yes, I know it's 811, but still
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Edited by wannahocalugie - 02/04/2020 3:47 pm
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Posted 02/04/2020   7:06 pm  Show Profile Check clivel's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add clivel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The BSAC arms stamps, including the £10 stamp, were valid for both postage and revenue usage.
Fiscally used BSAC stamps were cancelled by pen, fiscal rubber stamp, or perfin.
The perfin either formed the letters BSAC, USED, or a date - 811 could be 8th November, with the year having missed the stamp and only piercing the document it was attached to.
Clive


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Edited by clivel - 02/04/2020 7:07 pm
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Posted 02/04/2020   7:21 pm  Show Profile Check docgfd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add docgfd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Clive! Very informative!
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Posted 02/05/2020   03:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vayolene to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the same stamp with 911

(not mine)
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Posted 02/05/2020   05:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's three more dated examples from BSACo. Sometimes the perfin is simply "USED", though I don't have a good enough example to show.


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Posted 02/05/2020   10:15 am  Show Profile Check docgfd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add docgfd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tim - those are great stamps! The format of your perfins compared to mine and vayolene's make me wonder if ours are year dates or perhaps something else.
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Posted 02/05/2020   11:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My guess is that yours are something else, but I'll have to do some research to try and find out what, exactly.
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Posted 02/05/2020   1:32 pm  Show Profile Check docgfd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add docgfd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is the 10-pound issue at the start of this thread listed by Scott? I looked under South Africa and all the precursors without any luck.
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Posted 02/05/2020   1:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Can't help you with the Scott number and listing, but it's listed in SG under Rhodesia as SG13. My guess it would be Rhodesia as Sc13? Rhodesia and it's precursor British South Africa Company had nothing to do with South Africa.
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Posted 02/05/2020   1:59 pm  Show Profile Check docgfd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add docgfd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Aaarggh! Of course ! I should have remembered that (or spent less time on US issues...or not have gotten old and forgetful). Thanks Tim, you're the man!
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Posted 02/05/2020   4:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For the record, the ten pound stamp is Scott #19..
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Posted 02/06/2020   04:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps as the first 2 numbers were single digits, the 01 (for 1901) was replaced with a single digit "1". To keep it in one simple line? 8 1 1 (8 jan 1901).
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Posted 06/12/2020   12:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are any members able to identify / explain the punctures here, please?
Sc#11 1913 A2 1 shilling orange.

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Edited by rod222 - 06/12/2020 12:40 am
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