Specialized Catalogue For Paper Varieties In 1920-S Lebanon, Syria

Hello,

the stamps of some countries like Lebanon and Syria were issued in the 1920s with overprints for earlier stamps from France.

For the stamps from France (1900) which were used, I find paper varities in the catalogue, namely normal white paper vs. grey granite paper (GC, grande consommation).

For the overprinted stamps I don't find this varieties in any catalogue, it's only one stamp always.

Is there a catalogue that lists all overprinted stamps of France in the 1920s (in Lebanon, Syria) also with white paper vs. GC paper? And is there a difference in value?

As far as I know, most of the Syrian overprints only used stamps on GC paper, although Maury's Europe et Asie catalogue (last published in 2011) lists some issued on both types.

Thank you. What about Lebanon, does the Maury say anything there?

Conversely, Maury shows the Lebanese issues as being on standard paper, with one exception. I don't think it lists any with both paper types. This isn't necessarily conclusive, of course - perhaps some of our members in France have some thoughts?

Thank you again. But Maury is certainly a good start here for this issue, probably better than Michel or Scott.

What Lebanese stamp is listed with both standard and GC (granite?) paper? And is there any description why they just list stamp?

It's not listed as both. Maury 4 I - the 75c on 15c olive-green of 1924 - is listed with GC paper, whereas Maury 4 II is listed with ordinary paper (the two types reflect differences in the "C" of centimes in the surcharge).

Whatever the catalogues are saying, bear in mind to check the direction of paper! It can be vertical or horizontal!

thanks again. It's interesting that Maury has its listing so divided, as I would have thought that just all 1900 France stamps were taken to overprint. Would be interesting to know from a French collector if there is really no specialized catalogue about it.

Galeoptix: but the paper direction does not make a difference for the white vs. GC paper difference here?

stamperix: What stamp in particular are you interested in? Can you post a few examples.

Sure, here a few. I like reading catalogues sometimes like a book :), not necessarily in any correlation with the collection of stamps I have myself. But I found the paper difference from the 1900 France issue interesting and then looked at the Syria and Lebanon chapters in my catalogues (Michel and Scott) and did not find anything.

Especially I am interested in the landscape larger format stamps with additional arabic letters.

here it is called GC paper, the 30c and 40c:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/GRAND-LIBAN...AOSwdsFUQsMk

here the paper seems very white, just in comparison to the 40c above:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/FRENCH-COLO...AOSwkvtb5E2p

So I find stamps (let's stay at the example of the Lebanon overprints) of which the paper is:
- white
- grey brown (GC)
- grey brown with fibers (granite paper?)

I think it would be interesting to see if any specialised catalogue in France makes a paper difference for those 1920s Lebanon overprint stamps.

The 1.50 on 30c isn't listed as having GC paper. The 2 on 40c Type II is found with both - sorry, I missed that earlier!

The fibres are a characteristic of GC paper, I think.

It is not easy to differentiate between the different GC papers or even the D paper from a pic.There are white,yellowish brown,whitish brown GC papers.Only by looking at the backside through a light can you be sure.The fibers give the GC away.Although the GC paper was the most common there is for example the 25c Sower Millésime 0 (1920) with GC,C a D papers.
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______________The Papers___________________

Paper A (type IA Sower)

Thick, rough, more or less creamy. No ribbing by transparency, nor bright spots. It only existed in 1907

Paper B

Thick, good quality without roughness; pure white. It has few bright spots by transparency. It appears in 1907 and disappears in 1910

Paper C

Paper with many bright spots seen through transparency. Thin, smooth, sometimes icy. Pure white, greyish or yellowish. Used from 1909 and used alone from 1911 to 1915

Paper D

It is wove paper with lozenges visible through the light. There are several kinds of D paper: either thick, pure white, or thin, greyish. This paper appears in 1900

G.C. paper

Used during the war from November 1916 to March 1920. Announced by circular N ° 7740 dated 8/12/1916
The 150 sheets printed between these dates bear the letters G.C. in the top and bottom margins in the color of the stamp.
The booklet sheets also carried these letters, but the cutting eliminated them.
GC paper exists in many varieties, ranging from pure white to dark buff, through gray, yellowish. Some of these papers contain tiny waste.

Paper X

It is a special paper bought expressly for the sheets of 144 intended for the manufacture of booklets of 30 stamps of 10 c. It dates from 1912.
This paper is very white opaque, of excellent quality. Very white gum was applied before the stamps were printed.
It is often obliquely striated N.O. - S.E., in order to make the paper more flexible.
The sheets of this paper are gummed over their entire surface, including the margins.
There was still a large stock of X paper when the war was declared. This stock of paper was used in 1916 and 1917 for stamps in sheets, booklets or rolls, both for France and for the French Offices Abroad (B.F.E.).

Paper E

Specific from 1920,Wove paper that forms little hexagons,visible from the front and back

extract from:semeuses.com

Thank you very much both of you again. So at least we have no an impression of the Maury and know that the paper difference is somehow listed there for Syria and Lebanon. If anybody knows if there is another catalogue which makes more paper difference here, it would be interesting to read, otherwise Maury is the way to go here.

First lets back up to explain to new collectors what is being discussed . French stamps during the war years of 1916 to 1920 were printed on lesser quality paper ,which had a gray tint to them and had rag content .

Here is a good scan of the paper used with regular paper ,this is a extreme difference on some stamps it is hard to see the difference .

Please note you can see the color fibers in the dark tinted paper .

Perf 12

Where did you get the paper info from? I can't find anything in semeuses.com?!

Rein