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Am I correct that one of these is 10 peaks and the other is the 11 peak variety?  thanks Joe *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***
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Hi Joe. If I understand this correctly the left one is an 11x10 PP/VV, the right one is 10x10 PV/VP Hope this helps
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So first one is 11 peaks, starting peaks and ending peaks and the rights side of stamp is 11 valleys starting valley ending valleys? Other stamp is 10 peaks, starting peaks ending valleys both sides? |
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Almost right. The first one is 11x10 PP/VV which means the right side has 11 peaks and the left side has 10 peaks, left side starting with a peak and right side starting with a valley. Second ( right ) stamp is 10x10 PV/VP which means left side has 10 peaks starting with a peak and the right side has 10 peaks starting with a valley
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Is this the only variation out there? Or is there 11 x 11? And\or a 10 x 11?
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For 2915a plate number 99999, there are only 11 x 10 and 10 x 10. The other die cut variety for 2915a is 10 x 11, an error die cut that exists on plates 66666 (extremely rare as only 7 used copies are known to exist) and 88898 (somewhat rare).
For 2915c, die cuts include 11 x 12 (common except for plate 88888 which is extremely rare as only 4 used singles are known to exist), 12 x 12 (common) and 12 x 11 (plate number 66666, extremely rare as only 7 used copies are known to exist). |
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Hi Peter you said Quote: "The first one is 11x10 PP/VV which means the right side has 11 peaks and the left side has 10 peaks, left side starting with a peak and right side starting with a valley. Did you mean The first one is 11x10 PP/VV which means the Left side has 11 peaks and the left side has 10 peaks, right side starting with a peak and right side starting with a valley.? Also why PP/VV what do they represent? |
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Got left and right mixed up. Counting starts at left, so left side of left stamp has 11 peaks and starts with a peak. Right side has 10 peaks. Left side starts and ends with a peak hence PP. Right side starts and ends with a valley - VV
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Also forgot to mention that 2915a 10 x 10 can be either PV/VP (peak in the top left corner) or VP/PV. Plate numbers with both varieties include 13231A, 22222A, 44444A, 55555A, 66666A, and 77777A. |
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thanks Peter! I have a large collection I bought back a few years ago of used PNCs. this info will finally help me sort what I have! |
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This issue also has numerous die cut incisions styles. To learn more, Hans van Gils a collector in the Netherlands, has created some fantastic checklists for various modern US Definitive series. One of them is the Flag Over Porch series. The checklists are highly detailed and all are in English even though the website is in Dutch. Check it out. http://www.usca.nl/usa-canada-2/usa...tive-issues/ |
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Personally, the Flag Over Porch (FOP) coil series is my favorite. The many different varieties and difficulty in finding some items is challenging. I've been accumulating the plate number coils for many years to create an exhibit. I still don't have all that I'd like to have to submit the exhibit at a show, but I'm getting closer to my goal. My most recent acquisition is a 2915a, plate number 88898 die cut 10 x 11, used on a non-commercial cover. |
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