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This one is driving me crazy. Although only the last few letters are visible and seem legible, I still haven't been able to figure out what they are. Can anyone identify this place on the basis of these few letters?  Thanks for looking!
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Are you able to assist us, to assist you? I need a suggested text string to search my database. Using your Loupe, to flyspeck, would CEPRY be close? any further suggestions / options? Why Victorian? Any 3 letter string would help immensly.
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| Edited by rod222 - 03/19/2020 6:07 pm |
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I do not collect this area of the world, but a few thoughts come to mind to help others solve the mystery. 1. Show us the entire cover. Most mail does not travel too far. The origin is likely closer to the destination than otherwise. 2. A scan or two with exaggerated exposure/contrast might be useful to show the faintest parts.
Yeah looks like it could end in CLERK or GERRY. |
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| Edited by John Becker - 03/19/2020 6:41 pm |
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I used the two letter text strings CE and GE Only remote results were YANGERY and TAGGERTY (Yangery may have been once used with a double R)
Clerk or Gerry no results (My database may not be exhaustive)
I may be able to search, using a letter count, if you can determine how many letters in the strike. John's advice regarding the entire cover is useful.
*.GERRY Gerrymberryn NSW Goonengerry NSW
*.clerk None in Australia (20,000 records)
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| Edited by rod222 - 03/19/2020 6:50 pm |
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Thanks, rod222, I always knew you were up for a challenge!
I didn't make any suggestions because I didn't want my guess (which failed to solve the problem) to influence anyone else's. However, my initial thought was the same as yours -that it was "CEPRY." By the way, unframed cds like this were only used in Victoria at the time (1912/13), so there's no point looking for a place in NSW. Yangery P.O. was not open at this time and Taggerty is too short and would not be symmetrical. I've tried every combination of three letters or more than I can think of without success, which is why I decided to bring the problem here.
John, the cover was addressed to Melbourne. It comes from a hoard of thousands of front covers addressed to Griffiths Brothers, who were the leading purveyors of tea, coffee and cocoa in Victoria at the time. Orders came in from all over the state, as well as places in NSW close to the Victorian border. There is nothing else on the cover that could help because it's a completely indecipherable numeral.
I will have a go at making a high contrast image later on today. However, in the past, I've never been able to do this successfully - perhaps because I don't have Photoshop.
There do seem to be two words and I can faintly see a Y at the end of the first. If this is the case it could be "Y CREEK." Unfortunately, there were 20+ post offices open at the time with names that would fit.
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| Edited by jimjamtwo - 03/19/2020 7:06 pm |
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Rod's Longshot. Assuming : ?27 etc is a part smudge date, that suggests there is a 9 letter unframed postal strike. If so, then the corollory follows, middle letter MUST be either a "C" or a "G" It cannot be anything else.
A nine letter Victorian Postmark with a central "C" I cannot find existing.
A nine letter Victorian Postmark with a central "G" leaves only 1 GLENGARRY 8 Km NNE of Traralgon Re named from a La Trobe R.S. as a PO on 1st December 1884 10 possible Hammer Varieties. |
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| Edited by rod222 - 03/19/2020 7:25 pm |
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Glengarry PO Bib: The Post Offices and Hand-Held Datestamps of Victoria. Volume 2 Gary Watson, John Webster and David Wood 1992 ISBN 073167593 2 (set) 064612530 3  |
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or something abbreviated without extra spacing like ...GE PRK It's hard to separate the letters from the extraneous ink. |
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Indeed, the Aussie Post Offices generally had part leather countertops, to facilitate clear strikes of the postal hammers. Even so, this strike has evidence of "hammer chatter" the strike was so forceful the hammer has jumped, leaving 2 smudged impressions.
If perchance this was indeed Glengarry, then around 1911, there was either a damaged Postal hammer, or a lost hammer, as there was a "RELIEF" hammer issued, that has a rating of RRRR
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| Edited by rod222 - 03/19/2020 7:38 pm |
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Nice work! State revs. I envy that ability. Could be a "Y" ? Postmarks can send one around the twist. I'm done here  |
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StateRevs, you beat me to it! This is my effort:  It looks to me like the first word ends in Y. if the preceding letter is an N, then the name could be either FERNY CREEK or STONY CREEK. If it's a T, it's probably SLATY CREEK. |
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Victoria ending with "Creek" 256 Postmarks
Creek with preceding "Y"
Boggy Creek Boy Creek Brandy Creek Breakaway Creek Brushy Creek Dry Creek Ferny Creek Fiery Creek Fiery Creek P.G.F. Flaggy Creek Glenlofty Creek Icy Creek McKay Creek Muddy Creek Bridge Reedy Creek Sandy Creek Scrubby Creek Shady Creek Slaty Creek Snowy Creek Stony Creek Stony Creek R.S. Wallaby Creek Mahogany Creek Sandy Creek Turkey Creek
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