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US 1928 #646 2c Molly Pitcher Double Impression Value?

 
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Posted 05/05/2020   10:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add souldjer777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Good Morning,

I have a US 1928 #646 2c Molly Pitcher perforated 11 x 10.5 with a double impression and would like to know it's value please as it's not listed in Scott Catalog.

Thanks!



UPDATED: Double transfer changed to double impression due to feedback below.
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Posted 05/05/2020   10:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You might want to read this thread; You clearly need to learn more about double transfers and their appearance.

https://goscf.com/t/11164
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Posted 05/05/2020   11:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Me thinks that perhaps we are getting punked?
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Posted 05/05/2020   11:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps. I'm willing to risk a few posts.
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Posted 05/05/2020   12:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This I believe is a poor plate wiping issue and not a double transfer. Much like this one...

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Posted 05/05/2020   1:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This thread has pictures of quite a few double, and even triple transfers, for you to see examples of.

https://goscf.com/t/53670

Double impressions are printing varieties.
Double transfers are plate varieties.

Ignoring plate wear issues, double transfers tend to be consistent for a given plate position. A stamp with some doubling that looks like evidence of a re-entry of a plate position can usually be proven to be a double transfer by finding at least one other corroborating copy.

Double impressions are one-off's during the printing process.
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Posted 05/05/2020   1:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add souldjer777 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Right, sorry, I don't know what to call these. Double transfer / double impression / re-entry. If there isn't a catalog description I have a difficult time deciding on any of the criteria. Easiest is inverted and double overprints. Thank you for the link, I checked it out.

Given my limited knowledge on stamp presses and processes - shouldn't I just refer to them as a "re-entry" or "doubled" and be done with it?

Generally, if there isn't a catalog listing, I'm going to throw out one or the other and not look back.

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Posted 05/05/2020   2:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To begin with, you should read the first 80 pages of the catalog, which will give you a lot of information.
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Posted 05/05/2020   2:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And why would you "throw out" any stamps?
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Posted 05/05/2020   2:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add souldjer777 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm saying I'd throw out one term or the other - as in "double impression" or "double transfer" and not look back.

Whole stamp doubled: double transfer

Portion of the stamp: double impression

What I'll probably go with: "re-entry"

While we're on the topic - what say you about this one? Color shift sound good enough for you?

Liberia 1949 #312

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Posted 05/05/2020   3:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You really need to do more research.
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Posted 05/05/2020   3:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A lot more research.
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Posted 05/05/2020   5:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think the takeaway here, is that terms such as "double transfer", and "double impression" have very definite connotations. It requires analysis of a stamp in order to determine if it exhibits one of those.

When posting a stamp, you could refer to "doubling" or "extraneous ink markings", for example, that you observe. Those are observational terms, as opposed to the specific terms that you have been using.
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Posted 05/07/2020   3:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add souldjer777 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Much appreciated txstamp!

I now have a Epson V600 photo scanner for these tricky stamps. I'm hoping to get all the detail I can at the highest resolution possible for these kind of investigations.
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